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More fuzzy pics. We’re told with other encounters that the events lasted over days or weeks, but still, always fuzzy pics.

I’ve seen imagery from systems possessed by these organizations over twenty years ago. There was nothing fuzzy about them. Either these organizations can’t clean lenses or they make deliberate choices not to image these objects with anything close better than a polaroid camera.

This “we could show you higher rez but we’d have to kill you” is bs.

100% we’re being trolled.

What if Vatican published for 50 years ultra-blurry photo of a guy, saying "He's like Jesus. We confirm he has all attributes a jesus would have. But wait a little more, we will give you accurate photos of him, maybe, or maybe we can not confirm it's Jesus, but, never mind, we will publish godish archives soon" ? And during this time,for more than 50 years, no sign of this messiah, nobody meet him, but only some rare ultra-blurry photos of a random guy. In this case, I personnaly would think Vatican take me for a dumb idiot.

Sure, but if you had millions of people around the world telling you they believed they were communicating with Jesus through prayer, and thousands of people who said they had actually met Jesus (or one of his saintly holy ilk), or been healed or saved (in miraculous fashion) by such, would you think those individuals with their stories and experiences were taking you from dumb idiot? Would you consider them dumb idiot?

I think not, but I could be wrong about you. Afterall, it's up to you how you feel about this. For me, I trust myself (my own knowledge, experience and belief of this), and I trust the thousands of regular people (sadly, the government and intelligence people, less so) who have said they have experienced alien beings or tech.

Would you believe any narrative involving Jesus ? Can somebody or something fools people with false claims about the messiah?

Depends. I'd use my judgment. Like I've been using my judgment about UFO stories, people who tell them and my own experience to inform my beliefs. Who are you to say other people's stories are "false claims" or not? You don't know. And you can't say for other people, only for yourself. Would you just disbelieve any narrative about it?

> Can somebody or something fools people with false claims about the messiah?

I think they can fool people about it. Definitely. That's why you got to use your own judgement. Think for yourself. Can the government or skeptics or disinfo agents just fool you about this?

Thank you for your reply. I'm sincerely sorry if I hurt you.

> 100% we’re being trolled.

I have a hard time rationalizing or disproving the Malmstrom base incident, along with other stuff that's allegedly happened around nuclear facilities.

On top of the growing noise about government records surrounding UAP/USO phenomenon, I'm not sure why you're so confident.

Another area being visited over days and the most advanced military in the world, at the most secure faculities, and we don’t even have a fuzzy polaroid.

These bases are patrolled by 18 year olds with loaded machine guns. I’ve know aircrews afraid of interacting with them. But somehow they’re reliable witnesses.

Extraordinary claims require extraordianry evidence. It hasn’t ever happened once in 70 years. At some point you have to stop believing.

> It hasn’t ever happened once in 70 years.

do you expect the government to publish photographs or something from some of the most important sites of national defense?

Extraordinary conservatism leads to extraordinary ignorance.

The age of evidence is behind us. It's all about expert opinion now, as you can infer from the other comments you've gotten.

I agree with you on that. I know there are aliens, and that we're being visited by them, but the fuzzy pics are a shameful debacle. I've heard video testimony (Richard Doty, on Gaia) of people saying the AF Office of Special investigations recovered objects and crystal clear civilian photos of UFOs and beings that landed. They took them from the people who had the photos and classified them.

Of course, Doty could be just a paid shill (part of his counterintelligence role was being a paid shill for a long time). But other people have said it. But "other people" are not necessarily credible.

I think it's 30% the "government" is purely "trolling" us. And 62% it's not just trolling, but deliberate deception to cover some truth they know. And 8% they actually have no idea and this is the best they can do.

So given that I think it's useful to come up with theories about "why" would they be doing deception and why this kind of deception. Why do a limited hangout that provides equal feed for the triumvirate of skeptics, debunkers and believers? AFACT, in intelligence the reason you feed both sides of a conflict is to create a chaos outcome. The strange thing is the net effect of this is to cause people to be confused, to lose faith in all of the government, each other and in any extraterrestrial reality. It seems only the archetypal "adversaries" would want that for a country and its people. So who is really pulling the strings of this elaborate disinformation campaign? My bets are corporate special interests that control any actual reverse engineered technology and interactions and who make the government the whipping boy, or other countries.

Going down this road I think the point is really to create a "narrative denial system" to keep people in a cordoned off area in which they are safe to speculate, hate each other, and argue about these things, and far away from the real truth. I really think that whoever is controlling this narrative is doing this to protect the truth. Not that I agree with their tactics, but I can understand the motivation, and recognize the tactics from other operations against "conventional" threats.

In light of this theory, the upcoming, "sanctioned release" of information requested by the DNI, seems likely to simply be more fuel for all rival camps. An alternate theory is this is not deception for confusion, but deception for "acclimatization". A drip drip "disclosure" that both protects existing incumbents (corporate utilizers of the tech) and slowly (and seemingly begrudgingly) accustoms the public to the reality of its existence. The drip rate is chosen to precisely minimize the actual information release, while maximizing satisfaction of the public's growing thirst for this info. I have a feeling we've been here before, and it's the same game. Which is kind of sad.

It would be good to see other arguments from other thinkers taking as a premise the existence of aliens and the special compartmentalized intelligence world's knowledge of that, that explain the motivation and tactics of the utterly bizarre psyop running around the release of this information.

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