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Greyhound Canada shutting down all bus service permanently

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44 pointsAndrewBissell22 comments

That's terrible news for people who depended on GhC. OTOH, they blame [news.greyhound.ca/] 'the impact of a changing and increasingly challenging transportation environment, including de-regulation and subsidized competition such as VIA Rail and publicly owned bus systems' as well as the May 2020 suspension (which, if I read it right, they state led to a 95% volume loss).

So certainly the 'subsidized' and 'public' systems will see a benefit from this loss, and pick up the pieces. Traveling GH was never a picnic, and I doubt it's gotten better in this century.

Was all downhill ever since that beheading

There aren't enough hills in the place where that happened.

Sorry do you have a link for what this is referencing

The greyhound beheading incident

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Tim_McLean

Oh wow, and the offender is now living freely since 2017. Good to know.

Wait WHAT

The offender was found to be not criminally responsible due to extreme mental health problem, was put into secure treatment for long time, and eventually considered safe to be in society. Locking him up further would be purely revenge not justice.

7 years is not long for beheading, defiling, and cannibalizing a stranger on a bus

It's long in the context of how much mental health treatment they can have provided him over that time.

If 7 years is how long it took to be sure he wouldn't reoffend, why go longer? It would be a waste of taxpayer money, it would worsen his life for no benefit, it wouldn't solve anything for society, and it wouldn't even be useful as a deterrent because I'm pretty sure he wasn't thinking about ROI of crime vs. potential punishment when committing the crime considering he believed God was ordering him to do it, and he didn't deny having done it.

If mental health treatment were so far advanced that his problems could have been 100% cured within a month, I would have supported his being released after a month.

> it would worsen his life for no benefit

Why are we talking about benefits for a person that beheaded and ATE someone?

It wouldn't bring any benefit to anyone (except maybe private prison companies).

And also it's because he's still a person. A person who did a terrible thing while literally insane, but still a person.

Letting him out definitely won't benefit society. The recidivism for "mentally insane" convicts is extremely high.

It feels good, but it's like letting a drunk driver get back behind the wheel after they show remorse. The chances that they get in another DWI (and hurt someone) is high.

It's also why we have sex offender registries. The recidivism is high.

I'd love to read the papers you've consumed that lead you to this consultation if you have them handy. A lot of what we see in Canada is in fact the exact opposite in the context of mental health, so I'm very curious to know where you formed this opinion from.

Because we're Canadians, and that is the mentality that we take, as surprising as that might be to other cultures, we're not particularly vengeful people, and especially so in the context of mental health.

Jesus christ

Yeah I’m sure a year of lockdowns had nothing to do with it, as lockdowns are free, right?

Do they have something similar to MEGA or BOLT busses in Canada? If so, can they not serve some of these communities, or was the grey hound it?

BoltBus operates cross-border routes starting and ending in Vancouver, but I don't think they offer domestic travel in Canada.

My understanding is that Megabus has a Montreal/Toronto route.

Greyhound owns Bolt. At least in the US they do. Not sure about Canada.

Greyhound buses in Ontario and Quebec were like the Twin Otters in Alaska.

It's a huge loss for smaller and northern communities. Besides affordable, scheduled passenger service, Greyhound carried film reels for theaters, and likely other materials.

Really it was an essential service - I don't see how many rural towns will continue to be viable. Certainly young people will leave for the big city and never return.

Note that if Greyhound still owns their city-center terminals, those could be worth a billion dollars.

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