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Rarely is Apple the first to do something. Usually they're the first to do it well, with high quality, and when they think the market is there for it to become more ubiquitous. Sometimes they'll pull a few things together that weren't previously, but for the most part they excel at providing a polished, high quality experience for something that already existed.

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Perhaps they're referring to things Apple does that don't involve "doing it well", such as removing headphone jacks or USB power adapters, or adding the iPhone notch.

Samsung marketing team had field days on each of these moves, then the following release cycle their products did the same.

This doesn’t change the fact that Samsung always immediately clones whatever Apple does

How is that possible when Apple's clone is based on whatever Samsung already announced/releaseD?

They copy each other but make minor errors in each copy. The fitter copies survive. That's called "evolution by natural selection."

You know Samsung lost a billion dollar lawsuit because they stole the entire iPhone UI right?

No, it was $500M and centered about this design patent for rounded corners: https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/fa/21/81/670fbfd...

That's it. These clipart pictures really are the complete patent.

you mean the lawsuits Apple couldn't win outside Koh's court in Apple's backyard?

Both examples ( arm laptop and tags) was literally already done by Samsung ..

Samsung was also earlier with the smartwatch for example. What else in the past 10 years? Earbuds!

Note: iPad and IPhone was earlier, but that's already more than 10 years ago. Where the first tablet was way ahead of it's time: 1989 with the GRiDPad 1900.

Yes but Samsung copied the iPhone so closely that they lost a 7 year $1 billion lawsuit and ended up settling out of court after appealing to the Supreme Court

They almost exactly copied the major UI features in violation of the patents so it goes well beyond whether someone had made any kind of tablet before

The Galaxy Book Pro (well at least they changed one word from Mac Book Pro) has always been a close emulation of the MacBook line as well

Halve a billion about round edges imo.

And an Ultrabook is just a thin laptop, Apple doesn't have any patents there, because they were not the first in that. Notice book being in the actual generic name?

Not a strong argument for over 20 years...

Who even said: good artists copy, great artists steal? :)

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