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Sometimes yes, although typically not.

It is far better of a deal as an American to get EU citizenship in any EU country. This confers you Freedom of Movement Rights to live/work/retire in any EU or EFTA country, once you acquire the EU citizenship. You will always be seen as “the American” and also so with your American credentials. For Americans, usually the best country to do this is Republic of Ireland, as a it permits dual citizenship and it only takes 5 years to become a citizen.

With Irish citizenship, you also get Freedom of Movement rights to live/work/retire in the UK, unlike other EU passports due to old treaties and ties with the British.

Also, many people on here could work without having to get sponsorship in Ireland as they have the qualifications to get a skills waiver from the Irish government.

Once you are an Irish citizen, you will legally have the rights to work remote-based US-only jobs anywhere in the Ireland, the UK, EU, and EFTA. You just have your US employer hire you on as a contractor and have an Irish payroll company take care of the US (global income taxation) and Irish (residence based income) taxes. Obviously you forfeit Irish workers rights going this and you are subject to US employment law in this case, generally speaking.

Thanks for the insight, I should've been more specific. I'm asking for non American/western passport holders

In that case, the same would apply, except you would want to get citizenship in any European Union country. I would go with France. France permits dual citizenship and if you obtain a 2 year masters degree in France (and stay there for the 2 years during the masters degree) and then live there for 2 more years working in France, you can get French citizenship, which confers you EU citizenship.

The only situations where trying to obtain Irish citizenship would be advantageous is if you wanted to live in the United Kingdom (Irish citizens have the right to live/work/retire in the UK) or if you have formal qualifications (bachelors/masters degree) in a STEM field. If you have formal qualifications in a tech field with educational degrees, you can often get hired in Ireland much easier than other EU countries due to the Irish Skills Waiver, and you would not need sponsorship.

You need to enter the country with a visa which allows work or self-employed work.

You have to apply for and timely renew a residence permit. Documents which are required depend on the type of the permit. For work permits you need to demonstrate that you income is above the social minimum. The permit gives you the right to stay on the Italian soil and travel in the EU.

You need to rent a place to live and apply for the residency. Strictly speaking, residency is optional, but it will give you an Italian ID card, and will be required to receive a driver's license. IIRC you have six months before you need to get a local driver's license. Residency will also reduce utility bills and is required in some other situations.

After X years of non-interrupted residency (where X depends on your country of origin) you can apply for a citizenship. And it's a whole new story.

Update:

You also need to apply for an Italian fiscal code (and it will one of the first things to do).

Healthcare is guaranteed to all employed and self-employed, but you still have to have your ID, fiscal code, and a residence permit in order, and sign up for _Servizio Sanitario Nazionale_. The service to be renewed on each renewal of the residence permit.

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