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Comment by mlazos | Hacker News Reader

Yeah this is true, and I’m such a spiteful human being I actually take on the ux suffering just to screw them. You have to embrace it.

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Hate to be the bearer of bad news but you're probably hurting yourself far more than them

Not if I don’t use the service or ever install it on my devices.

How are you going to take on the UX suffering without using the service?

You may still be hurting yourself more than you hurt them. I say may since I don't know your circumstances, but I am missing out on communications from my employer since they insist upon using WhatsApp.

> I am missing out on communications from my employer since they insist upon using WhatsApp.

Is that a company-wide policy or just between eg. you and your team? Which country?

It is between the team and it is in Canada.

EDIT: Just to add, the employer does not have a policy for communications between team members.

Is the mobile device issued by your employer? Seems like a pointy-hair layer problem otherwise.

The account would have to be linked to a personal device, otherwise I wouldn't regard it as an issue. (Only the team lead is issued a mobile device.)

Then it's your employer that's hurting you, not you yourself.

I agree since they should not be using WhatsApp for internal communications. The problem is that they do not see it that way since it adds additional hurdles with respect to communications from their perspective. That is especially true since I am the only holdout and few people seem to know how to use the organization's email system with any degree of proficiency.

Someone shoulder-surfing you can see the phone number of the person you are messaging and might mess with them?

If some unstable person is breathing down my neck messing with my contacts is not what I would worry about.

It's too easy to do and can be done from quite far away. Also you don't need eyes. An innocent pic or video taken in public can capture that info.

I think long ago, Signal used to display phone number just beneath name when you are chatting someone. That always made me a bit uncomfortable. Now they don't do that, only displays name.

If they are that close.. they can see the words you are writing. If you are sending winky love icons who you are sending it to may not be as important your actual content.

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