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UK sends two navy ship to Jersey after France threatens blockade

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It's local elections day today, and there's also a parliamentary by-election.

Of course the PM would never use the Royal Navy for electoral purposes (sarcasm), but it's difficult to see this move as being anything else. It'll blow over.

I also think it'll blow over ... But it is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning? (groan / sorry)

what I'm trying to say (poorly), is we better get used to news like this. Scotland wants a referendum and Ireland's resurfacing troubles may (hopefully/finally) lead to a united island of Ireland. All of which is bad news for the Tans but great for Scotland & Ireland.

Is Scotland on the road to independence? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXOAh3Pmtcs

Will Brexit Lead to a United Ireland? Why 42% of Northern Ireland Support Leaving the UK https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNnXEqjBJNU

Scotland already had a ‘once in a lifetime’ referendum on leaving the U.K. and chose to remain.

sure, but meanwhile Brexit changed that dynamic drastically imo. I don't think it'll be beneficial for the Scottish economy (being so dependent on UK) to have the same hard border that is now in the Irish sea. Also ideology trumps common sense as we have seen with Brexit.

As a remain campaigner, I’d still say there are many common sense reasons to leave the EU for many countries. Considering Britain got what it wanted regarding immigration, trade, and fisheries it’s hard to argue otherwise.

The french fisheries minister threatened to cut off the islands electricity over the row, I think a show of force is necessary, especially a show of force to a country so adept at surrendering.

I don't think racist comments are welcome on HN and have flagged this.

outrageous. how could things devolve to this from just a few years ago. UK is on a terrible course.

Turns out that systematic brinkmanship against your neighbours will generate ill-will. Who would have thought…?

Sadly, this is what “the people” want. A steady diet of tabloid nationalism for decades is finally bearing fruit. Things will get uglier before they get better.

this is no different to the usual French pettiness over fish/beef/scallops/whatever

How is protecting your borders petty?

The UK decided to leave the EU, this seems like an entirely expected consequence.

In that case aren't the Jersey authorities also protecting their borders?

The British asked 17(!) ships for evidence they fished in British waters over the last five years, and the french have responded by threatening to deprive the islands of electricity while french vessels are blockading. If that’s not petty, I don’t know what is.

It's pettiness on both sides. The sort of thing we used to solve around a table in Bruxelles, now we have to send in naval ships. Naval ships, btw, that are often joint-built with them so we can actually afford them, with all that it entails...

What's outrageous? A french minister threatening to cut power to the island, french trawlermen blocking the landing of fish caught by british fishermen and to blockade the island of Jersey or two fisheries protection boats being dispatched to make sure the island's ports remain open?

The cause? Asking seventeen (17!) french fishing vessels for evidence they've fished those fisheries in the last 5 years.

I don't think I'm finding outrage in the same thing as you are.

UK signed a deal for the Brexit. Now UK doesn't want to honor its part of the deal, aka give european (and french) fishermen the authorization required by the deal...

Moreover, Jersey limited the parts of the fishing zone to be less than what the Brexit deal was negociated...

So... how do you deal with a country that signed a treaty 5 month ago and doesn't want to respect it ???? Jersey is just "another brick in the wall"

You use the dispute mechanism built into the treaty. You don't blockade an island economy.

Blockin the electricy is exactly that

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