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Do you really believe Apollo won’t gut up Yahoo and AOL or some other situation where any leftover spirit of the entities isn’t mostly gone? This is better than remaining with Verizon since they don’t want to deal with such small stuff. Here’s hoping things end up better for assets.

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No othey are going to leverage traffic into gambling assets. They don't want to gut the product. They will invest.

Define "gut up". Why would Apollo want to destroy the asset they just bought?

Venture Capital firms love to use throw debt at an asset so that they can have a cash windfall. The result is that the assets can never pay off the debt and end up declaring bankruptcy. See K-Mart, Sears, Toys R' Us, and anything that a vulture capitalist touches.

Yes, but you're thinking of private equity.

Your view of how LBOs work is really misinformed. You picked 3 famous PE deals that failed, but those are exceptions.

Apollo alone has done 150 private equity transactions, the vast majority of which have been tremendously successful otherwise investors would not be giving them more money to continue to invest.

A lot of PE follows a well-understood playbook. Buy a player in a settled industry, cut costs (== reduce maintenance, make the workforce cost less, etc.) and milk it for as long as possible.

That tends to work for investors; customers and employees, well.

The Artist Formerly Known as SolarWinds is PE owned.

They don't milk it for as long as possible. In fact, they exit the investment in 3-5 years. Anything longer and their IRR dwindles fast.

"As long as profitable" is basically the same thing when talking about a FPE, but if you like those words better, fine.

Successful from the point of the PE firm is not the same as successful from the point of view of the acquired company

It is if the alternative is to be woefully out-competed.

Venture Capital firms are early stage private investors. They don't do LBOs with dying companies, since that would naturally be a late stage investment. You're probably thinking of private equity.

The same reason a scrapyard buys broken cars?

Or maybe Apollo bought this in the same way some people buy fixer-uppers and flip them?

Analogies are great for illustration, but not for arguments. They don't really prove anything.

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