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Impossible to find housing is not my experience.

I moved here one year ago from Italy. Got an apartment from my first company for 2 months, then rented a shared apartment with other two people.

After a few months I got a mortgage with no money down and moved in my own house not far away from the center, and the government reimburses me part of that every month.

If we speak about renting prices, I can agree they are high, but from what I heard they are still less expensive than in the valley. Places to rent also go really quickly, but impossible is another thing.

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The rent is very high in Amsterdam, and it is really difficult to find good housing in Amsterdam in a decent neighborhood. The rent might be lower than the valley, but don't forget that Dutch salaries can easily be half of what you can get in the valley too.

Rent is high. It's also difficult to find housing because most places use "Makelaars" (rental agents), and they tend to only want to show the apartments during office hours on weekdays.

Appsterdam also has an amazing housing agent who specializes in expats.

I have a ground level apartment with a courtyard on the canal at Groenburgwal, which is in my opinion the nicest neighborhood in Amsterdam, right smack in the middle of everything, but quiet, and beautiful.

Furnished, all inclusive: €1300/mo.

I lived in San Francisco. An apartment this nice in a neighborhood this nice was well out of my price range, and I made six figures at Apple.

This is typically unaffordable for most developers (single). If you earn 50.000 euro per year, this would be 50% of your net-income. Most rental agencies have requirements on your income before you are eligible to rent an apartment. This could be 4 or 4.5 times your pretax income so you would require a 60-70k salary (or income) per year. That is 85k-100k USD. That is a high end salary, which only the most senior people would get.

This represents about the nicest apartment in Amsterdam. Things get cheaper the further you move from the center. And what "most rental agencies" require doesn't affect us. We have our own agency.

Mind to share that agency with the rest of us or give a ballpark price for an apartment a typical developer can afford (30-40k pre-tax salary)? I know lots of people who have been searching for places in Amsterdam to live for a decent price.

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