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Israel to investigate mysterious heart inflammation cases following Pfizer jab

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> There is no evidence at this time to conclude that myocarditis is a risk associated” with the use of the Pfizer-BioNTech’s vaccine, the company said

Until there is evidence, I don't see a reason for the average non-researcher to pay any attention to this news.

As a consumer, if there is a product with lots of ongoing investigations, it is prudent to avoid the product until more is known. You shouldn't buy baby formula with possible death as a risk being investigated; all of these are factors, even just waiting to see is rational.

It is not rational to avoid a covid vaccine, but nice try.

Nuremberg trials are waiting for you ;)

Yeah, bring it on. Hold me accountable for my crime of being pro vaccine.

The last data that I saw indicates I have < 0.15% chance of dying from Covid. That has dropped from the WHO's initial estimate of 3%, there is some reason to believe it may drop even lower. The chance of dying from the vaccine is a non-zero amount, but unknown; long term effects _can't_ be known at present. We might interpret the data differently, but it is not irrational to make decisions using a different strategy. Minimax vs minimin vs whatever else. Making decisions with limited data requires some amount of strategic preference. It is rational to take the vaccine or not take the vaccine, but depends on your criteria and optimization function.

You appear to be in a low risk group, and you've clearly not done the math on your risk of dying from getting a vaccine. You've also neglected to consider your risk of long term negative side effects from COVID, as well as the risk you could pose to other, high risk individuals by not being vaccinated.

> depends on your criteria

Yes, well, if your only criterion is the risk of death to someone under 30, then the necessity of vaccines might be low ("only" 1 in 500 young people). But even with that one narrow-minded criterion, the risk of vaccines is orders of magnitude lower than getting COVID.

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