Open letter of support for community members targeted by Jon Pretty
https://github.com/scala-open-letter/scala-open-letter.githu...
Open letter of support for community members targeted by Jon Pretty
https://github.com/scala-open-letter/scala-open-letter.githu...
this is a community realizing that John Pretty is a predator and deciding that they don't want a predator in a position of power
frankly, it's weird as hell for you to be confusing those two things
do you think after those posts his scala/programming/whatever he's doing career won't suffer? he's dead in many professional circles regardless if he's jail material or not.
no, a lynching is an extra-legal murder by a mob.
Please don’t assume everyone is a US citizen.
I'm not defending the guy specifically; I have no idea whether he's a guilty scumbag or a persecuted innocent. But even jerks deserve a certain amount of due process before punishment. Maybe she's the scumbag? I don't know, and neither do you.
Not really, it seems like cancel culture, did you even read this letter?
The part where people are saying they've become aware of several independent, substantiated accusations against Pretty?
The part where they state that sexual assault is unacceptable?
The part where they demand that Pretty stop this behavior, and that communities put stronger code of conducts in place to specifically call out preying on/sexually assaulting members of that community as unacceptable?
Refusing to associate with Pretty, who they believe is an sexual abuser?
Which part of that is 'a bit like a public lynching'? I want you to be specific, because waving your hand loosely at a document and being like, "Well I dunno, but this seems like an execution designed to drive fear into a community" is not only wildly inappropriate but also rhetorically hollow.
This part seems over the top. You go down this road and you end up in some foss hell. Later you find out someone who abused someone checked in code in linux. You can't use windows or a mac because of jobs and gates and you are back on a c64 until you realize what a bad person Jack was and you end up on OS/2.
I guess those who signed want to use an unmaintained version?
I get that people want to do something. Maybe conferences are not the best avenue for the community to meet safely. Providing gender safe housing would go a long way to having a more successful conference if successful means less rapes.
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I think you are very uncharitably reading that comment. There's a difference between, "This person checked some code into a repo" and "this person is the maintainer of a project".
And I think that it's reasonable for people to hold the stance of, "I don't want to run this person's code because I believe they are a serial abuser" and to clearly state why. If other repos see that, maybe they decide to take on that stance, maybe they don't.
They encourage others to consider doing the same, but the don't demand them.
Even thought I disagree with the group who signed the document I will still use whatever they maintain if it makes sense for my project.
We further resolve that:
We will not support the efforts of any party in the Scala community that provides a platform to Mr. Pretty. That includes, but is not limited to, boycotting events the party organizes and refusing to buy any product or service the party offers.
We will not attend any conference or user group meeting organized or attended by Mr. Pretty.
We will not attend any conference or user group meeting that does not have a code of conduct that is both specific (it must not allow predatory sexual advances in professional spaces) and actionable (it must provide a safe and accessible reporting mechanism for people who have been targeted).
We will not use or promote any software artifacts that are maintained by Mr. Pretty.
I'd rather avoid believing anything within Scala community until its proven.