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I'm referring to this - "I don't like Java or any other languages targeting the JVM, and don't get me started on the horrid Java ecosystem." Well, personal preferences can differ, but I'd like to see arguments why Java&Co. can be described like this.

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Google for "Enterprise FizzBuzz". And that one doesn't even use Spring. Yes it's a joke, but quite illustrative of why many dislike the Java culture and its ecosystem.

One doesn't need to use those traditions which are counterproductive. Java is flexible enough to allow for different styles regarding this approach. However I do see the point of criticism; it's just not enough, in my opinion, to dismiss the language and infrastructure altogether.

It can be difficult to avoid the culture/practices though. Every dependency you use, is code that you are ultimately responsible for. At a minimum you will need to learn how to use them; and you may need to debug and fix them. This is why it applies to other JVM languages too.

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