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I agree with your stance on Symfony, but it's important to realize that not every PHP framework is like that. Symfony adds a lot of complexity that doesn't necessarily mean lower development time or later flexibility - whereas many other PHP frameworks take a much simpler approach.

TL;DR: The problem is with Symfony, not PHP as a whole.

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Is there another PHP framework you would recommend? I'm about to start looking at Symfony as a replacement for our aging, home-grown PHP framework. I'm partial to Django, but since PHP is a requirement I could use thoughts on PHP alternatives.

i prefer CodeIgniter, myself, when doing PHP development. i like it because it doesn't force you into anything, but if you want to use its helpful features, you can.

Also examine Kohana - originally an offshoot of CodeIgniter, the 3.1 branch is an entirely different animal.

Kohana is more of a "toolkit" kind of framework, where most of the components only rely on a few base classes, but are otherwise surprisingly decoupled.

Kohana Framework. It's completely OOP, 5.2+, and non-magical.

Yii has borrowed a lot from Rails, and slightly improved AR with RelationalActiveRecord.

Of course, it's still PHP, with all of the said inconsistencies.

The comments in this thread seem to be referring to Symfony 1. Symfony2 is completely different.

If PHP is a requirement, you should really check it out.

For smaller projects CodeIgniter is great. It's simple to learn and use, and has excellent documentation (better than Kohana's).

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