Am I Doctor Stallman?
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Also, Stallman is misguided in asking the universities if he had permission. It is not a matter of permission, and, even if it were, it would not be the universities’ to give.
I admire Stallman’s accomplishments. But I always get an impression of feigned naïvité when reading these comments of his on his website. Can anyone in his position truly be so innocent?
It doesn’t invalidate your opinion, but it’s worth being aware of your own cultural context when making judgements.
Is this a Philosopher's Stone/Sorcerer's Stone situation where someone published an Americanized edition and that's what I have?
Mind you, calling yourself anything which isn't explicitly self deprecating gets you mocked in NZ.
In that vein, there are discoveries, studies and experts that occur or develop outside of universities. This is the source of an honorary degree. Famously, others have been given various degrees for effort and demonstrated competence (eg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Joel). People who scoff at honorary doctorates are elitists, at best. Those who do not accept that expertise can be cultivated excepting through anything other than standardized processes understandably believe that no other process is legitimate despite the fact that there are narrow and wide fields of study for which there exists no framework.
There is some truth to the observation that age unfairly plays into academic accomplishment insofar as someone younger could not be granted a teaching position or honorary degree, even if they demonstrate comparable knowledge. Part of the leeway is due to a passion or commitment to topics that can only be demonstrated through a life-long pursuit of knowledge and criticality.
Maybe you meant academic degree.
> But they are what they are.
Still not clear on what that means. Recognition of expertise? They are that.
> The convention is not to use the title “Dr.” on the basis of an honorary degree
Again, by those aforementioned.
I think you have a flawed set of beliefs. Good luck with whatever.
Whose permission would it be to give?
By all accounts -- even his own -- he's pretty socially clueless.
That seems to be a root cause of why he's so controversial. No one seems able to imagine he acquired his stature due to technical expertise alone.
Everyone seems to imagine you have to also be smooth, diplomatic, well-mannered, etc to be at the top of anything. Merely being a technical genius and pioneer couldn't possibly be the explanation, no.
Maybe the tech world could stop being so enamoured of gossip and cult of personality that techies often like to imagine they are immune to. Maybe people could just let him pedantically examine his belly button in public to his heart's content and not bother him about it.
I have no idea why people are reacting so negatively to this piece. It's extremely mild and reasonable and compares his firsthand experience with what he's heard about practices on two continents.
If you don't care what the hell he thinks about every random social topic, stop reading every random thing he writes about random social stuff.
He has gotten plenty of real world push back on genuinely harmful and problematic statements he has made. He's owned up to "Yeah, that wasn't great. I'm not great at social nuance. I learned something there."
And people are continuing to have a cow about a post like this?! That's not his fault. That's other people being ridiculous.
OK, but he has 15. The cumulative effect of these has to be capable of overcoming a barrier potential.
He didn't earn them, he was gifted them because people liked him. They're puffery, they don't mean anything.
All a " real" doctorate is in the first place is a certification of expertise and/or recognition of acheivement, just like a uniform or a badge or a license etc, so that someone who was not there and has no way to know from direct experience, how seriously to take your advice, and on which topics.
An honorary degree performs exactly the same function.
No, it doesn't. Richard Stallman didn't put in the work to earn fifteen doctorates, he hasn't earned the right to be considered on par with someone who put in the work to earn even one.
The function of an honorary doctorate is the same as the function of a key to the city, which is to say an ego boost to the receiver and publicity for the giving institution, but make no mistake - a real doctorate and an honorary one are not the same. The former takes years of study, discipline and effort, the latter requires literally nothing but showing up.
The tone I don't agree with, based on my understanding of honorary degrees. I haven't heard of honorary doctorates being handed out to just random people who did nothing but showed up, nor for just being pals with someone. Where I live, honorary degrees seem to be awarded to people with distinctive achievement in the industry, politics, the arts, or in other areas of society. That's not "literally nothing but showing up", and you make it sound like none of those people did anything to be worth a distinction.
Maybe the culture of awarding honorary degrees is different in different countries, but my understanding is that they're valid acknowledgements of contribution, although not for academic work.
As for Stallman, whether you like him or not, and whether you even agree with his ideas of free software or not, it would be silly to say he has done nothing, or that he hasn't achieved and contributed something.
And assuming that a honorary degree is not just "imaginary" but an acknowledgement of achievement or contribution, maybe fifteen actually is more than one or none. Still not a normal academic degree (and certainly not several), but perhaps indicative of higher impact or contribution than one.
So, I agree that honorary degrees should generally not be treated the same as normal academic degrees. I can see how, especially if you've put in the explicit work for a doctorate, seeing someone get the same for "free" (i.e. without putting in the explicit effort for just that) could be frustrating and seem wrong. But the tone you used was IMO way too dismissive in general, so I strongly disagree with the rest of it.
I was looking through Evolution of Lisp again recently and noticed some citations of Stallman working with Sussman on computer aided circuit analysis.
Stallman also did research into Lisp systems at a time when that sort of thing was still Ph. D worthy, by the way. He was on the ANSI Common Lisp committee, too.
As a hacker, Stallman can easily wipe the floor with many a CS Ph. D.
Stallman can easily be regarded as a "Dr." and specifically in computer science.
For a Dentist, DDS (Doctor of Dental Surgery) and DMD (Doctor of Medicine in Dentistry), which I understand to be the same degrees, at least implies a medical background.
Even without the 15 honoraries, he's done more for me and the world at large than most officially credentialed.
> rather than just putting up with it like most would
Whatever that virtue is, I wish I had more of it.
I say his positions are so inarguably correct that whoever finds them insufferable is either one of the people actively making life suck, or, merely a weaker person than him.
If I ever had to try to work with him, and his inability to use zoom or something was annoying to me, I know that the source of that problem is ME. Not even zoom but me.
And emacs is one example of a lot of really valuable contributions to the state of the art Stallman has made. Honestly, his political fame is the least interesting thing about his career, in my opinion.
Disclaimer: I'm not a fanboy and I use vim. :-)
For example, see 1935 thesis details.
https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%90%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%...
> We address this problem by publishing the definition of free software, and by saying “Think of ‘free speech,’ not ‘free beer.’”
TIL Richard Stallman is a Free Software pioneer, and Free means freedom, not free beer.
Also FLOSS is better to use than FOSS, it stands for "Free/Libre and Open Source Software", in order to clearly call out the freedom part of the meaning of free software.
I have a PhD in CS, work in industry, and never use the title "doctor" professionally and can't think of anyone else who does—people in my company are generally recognized by their job level, and even then it is context-dependent.
The FSF board has not generally used the title of "doctor" even for members with a PhD. https://web.archive.org/web/20150314205150/https://www.fsf.o...
> in formal situations, in connection with talks, interviews and publications, not in ordinary conversation.
Why? I conjecture the USA isn’t unique as far as people scamming credentials.
I conjecture that you wouldn't call someone a liar without some pretty solid data or at least direct observation.
Are you maybe saying that you've had 15 honorary degrees in various schools around the world, and the other people up their with you those days, or yourself, were utterly unworthy, to negate his stated observation?
Or maybe you're saying that what he said just doesn't mean much since all he claimed was that he respected the other recipients accomplishments. Sure I get that. One thing everyone knows about RMS, he's easy to impress.
The attention this would normally get from me is looking up their thesis, seeing instead their honorary degree(s), and turning me off from whatever the person is associated with. Not sure that's the intended effect.
"He's kind of a little pretentious?"
"Just as bad! Run with it."
IMO, the thing about honors is they're only meaningful if you can afford to dispense with them, so I think it would be pretentious for him to introduce himself with it. I've only ever called the various Sirs, Lords, Rt. Hons, Generals, Colonels, and various Worships I've met by their first names because I'm a civilian.
Perhaps he was thinking about doing something like this himself.
Edit: Also technically he would not be called Dr.h.c x12 but "Dr.h.c. mult.".
Greetings from a country obsessed with titles...
But the latter don’t get offered for the same body of work, over and over again.
normally a school only ever says that about someone because they themselves produced and gauged that persons education. And for the same reason, normally a person only ever gets one school to say that about them.
But that could be seen as more a matter of logistics than some concept of "earning". Some school that doesn't know me can't make any declarations about my fitness to work in a given field.
The earning thing is not exactly a wrong way to think about it, but it's not exactly the only or the whole way either.
I don't really know all that much about Stallman himself, but doctorates (and degrees in general) are awarded a bit arbitrary anyway. I don't see what's less valuable about an honorary degree. I'd be more inclined to look at which universities it is that award the doctorates, honorary or not. Here, Stallman has an honorary degree from KTH in Sweden. There aren't all that many tech universities with a higher pedigree than KTH.
Also, lawyers are not “doctors” in any sense, despite getting JDs from some places. And they do not use “Dr.”, and can get in trouble for doing so.
According to the American Bar Association it's a bit more complicated than that. Lawyers can, in fact, call themselves doctors in many cases: https://www.abajournal.com/magazine/article/lawyers_are_doct...
Dr. Phil - philosophy
Dr. Drew - medical doctor
Dr. Laura - physiology (honorary in tradition and culture from a tiny college)
Dr. Ruth - education
Dr. Oz - medical doctor
M.D. or Physician means what you think "Doctor" means. https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/20/702.404
Legally, it depends on the very lenient existing laws of the land to determine if you are prohibited (or default allowed) to be referred to as a doctor when you receive a doctorate. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5026525/ (mentioned US and CAN)
https://dmrthesis.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/AlbertMeyer...
It's almost comical. And, for the record, I respect the man and the importance of his movement immensely. But this particular post is pretty ridiculous. Such is the nature of being Richard Stallman I suppose.
I kid, I kid.
Moreover, although some people are definitely swayed by titles and degrees, once you have achieved a level of notoriety and respect in an industry or subject matter, titles really do become meaningless. I want my actual medical doctor to have a degree. Same with my dentist and my lawyer. I don’t really care about the engineer or academic or author.
Pseudo-related note. I used to work with a person who signed all of their emails [first] [last], Ph.D as if anyone cared (it was wholly irrelevant to his work). When they rage quit in a mass email to the team, they had to send the email twice because they forgot the Ph.D the first time. I’ve never laughed harder at the amount of self-satisfaction on display in my life.
I believe that’s the customary standard for earning a PhD.
With one exception: When at a function hosted by the institution who granted you that honorary degree.
I take more exception to people who sprinkle it in regardless of how they earned it.
I feel anyone can call themselves Doktor (ignoring fraud like pretending to be a medical practitioner without a license) and people can choose to follow along with their “preferred pronoun” or not as the evidence sways them.
I’d be inclined to use the terms others are using and when in doubt defer to the person themselves.
I feel Dr Stallman won’t care much how you refer to him as long as you don’t call him a proponent of closed-source.
All of this strikes me as a tempest in a teapot: but I’d still be interested in speaking with the man.
> The article is not error-free. For instance, it calls me an "open-source software pioneer," which misrepresents my views and my work. ( https://gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.html )