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The CCP can force Chinese to use this, but why would anyone else use it? I can’t see the USA or EU changing architectures unless our governments mandate it, and I see no moves in that direction. We are barely able to get people to implement IPv6 after 20 years of kicking people in the ass to do it, so it will not happen organically.

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China also provides foreign aid all over the world. I would guess quite a few countries would be willing to consider this in exchange for subsidized infrastructure.

Money. Australia is heavily influenced by Chinese policy, look at their stance on privacy / encryption / etc. Eventually this will percolate to the rest of the world. It will take decades but I’m sure it will happen. Younger generations are already pro censorship.

Chinas influence is strong enough to cause the AU PM to say stupid things: https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20170714/10385237789/aussi...

It's a real stretch to claim that the Aus govt's anti-encryption agenda originated in China.

Especially since any penetration of encryption within Australia would likely be turned against foreign agents (including the Chinese).

Also AFAIK we're still stuck in an unequal trade war with the PRC so they're not exactly flavour of the month around here.

That statement of AU PM is definitely worthy of retard. But why do you think it is caused by Chinese influence? From what I understand being able to have "master key" is a wet dream of every government without exception even if said government wants to have nothing to do with China.

The next big destination many people have with respect to internet penetration is Africa. And CCP is ahead of west in capturing African market by working best with dictators and being competitive. For example they sold their telecom towers very cheap, and they work best with only chinese phones. With this cycle, china owns major share of African mobile business in just a few years. It would be easier to to get their IP in there.

>"And CCP is ahead of west in capturing African market by working best with dictators and being competitive"

I guess the West should improve their track record on "working best with dictators".

Dictators aside, the Chinese are considered fairer trading partners than most (possibly all) western countries. ~1000 years of African history makes this point very clear.

Certain lessons need to be re-learned the hard way.

>Chinas influence is strong enough to cause the AU PM to say stupid things:

The PM is basically mirroring the position of the Five Eyes alliance of which Australia has been a member for longer than Communist China has existed.

US's DMCA laws and Disney-promoted extended copyright terms infected the rest of the world despite not technically being mandatory. I can see more than a slight parallel here whereever a country is within China's sphere of influence.

Everything you buy is from China. If China says it's the new standard, your iPhone or Android or Dell or HP or Playstation or Smart TV will support it.

What happens when trillion-dollar American luxury device manufacturers are no longer able to contact their manufacturers in China?

I’m sure those manufacturers will find a way to not shut down.

> What happens when trillion-dollar American luxury device manufacturers are no longer able to contact their manufacturers in China?

The relationship is mutual and losing manufacturing contracts with large international companies would deeply affect the Chinese economy.

Admittedly, the Chinese government has very long range vision compared to other governments and can unilaterally enforce austerity on their working class population in ways democratic regimes cannot.

That doesn't mean that China can alienate its international business partners with impunity.

Have a translation layer in between? That's basically the situation right now, with GFW sitting in between the chinese internet and the rest-of-the-world internet.

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