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Comment by Causality1 | Hacker News Reader

I try to sell friends and family on resisting Google's privacy invasions but lately it always goes the same way. "Yeah I know they know everything. How does that hurt me, like how does that cause me a problem in a real way that makes my life worse?" And I can't come up with a good answer for that.

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Substitute Google with the Chinese Communist Party and most Chinese people right now have the same attitude as your friends.

How would those friends feel about Chinese people being able to gain their information independence from CCP? If they would be in favour, then at least metaphorically they answered their own question.

If one honestly and genuinely believe Chinese people can get their news only from the CCP, one needs to consider fighting to gain his/her own information independence.

Yes, one does. Those who do fight to gain his/her own information independence including - as of now - a small minority of people in China with both the will and technical/political resources, should be well rewarded in doing so. It seems we may both be in favour of access to information independence. Wherever needed. The more the better.

It's not something they care about at all. As long as the prices in Walmart didn't go up, about 90% of the people I know wouldn't care or even notice if China sank under the ocean. Trying to get people who've already accepted the US government spying on them to care about Google spying on them feels impossible.

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