Discord will block NSFW servers on iOS
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These communities are not about porn, are not about anything "distasteful", but the flag is set there so that if a topic comes up we can discuss it without risking a ban.
In other words these communities are meant to be a Third Place[0], or an extension of a physical Third Place, particularly recently thanks to COVID.
The content here is literally no different than the content that could show up in a long-running group chat in the Messages app on iOS. I expect a ban for that to be coming in short order as well.
I dare you to name a societal problem which was solved independently of the technological advancement state of the time, i.e. a problem that could have been solved the same way with a significantly regressed state of technology when at the time of its actual solution.
If cars and machine guns solved prohibition, then no substance would have ever been prohibited after alcohol. Those were not solutions.
Today we're still solving prohibition of substances, starting with marijuana, by simply repealing bad laws.
Nobody is fighting for meth, cocaine and heroine to become legal in the US. We also have plenty of prostitution going on thanks to technology but that won't be legal anytime soon either. It will happen when people decide they're OK with it, not because technology makes it easy.
It's been nearly 15 years and it's still almost exclusively a buzzword used by scammers. It'll happen some time after the Year of the Linux Desktop.
Want to talk about sex? Pfft not if you want advertising! PG-13 only! Depressing.
He was very much anti-porn.
It was weak, but I don't think it was motivated by anything approaching a moral imperative, it seemed entirely pragmatic.
After all this the same people cry about excessive online moderation, porn bans and internet freedom. I'm sorry but internet freedom is dead. You killed it with your own wallet.
NSFW is the catch all phrase paving the way for censorship
A startup that cares only about growth at all costs doesn’t care too much about moderation. If it’s a tiny startup whose product isn’t very popular, they are free from any regulation.
Once the product gets popular, the startup morphs into a “regular” corporation and is now under all kinds of scrutiny to improve its image.
So any product that you use and like which gets really popular will suffer the same transformation as it becomes more mature and more adult.
This morality crusade against nudity has lasted long enough. Let adults be adults.
It's completely hypocritical, and you and others must stop defending their stupid authoritarian and honestly abusive decisions.
And yes, I'm afraid Reddit is likely next on the firing line, and not just from Apple. To be honest I'm surprised porn on Reddit has lasted this long.
So your answer is in your question.
Most people don't really want to deal with the 'cherished underbelly'.
Also, there's 'adult' and then there's stuff that goes way beyond that, that even freedom types would not want to be randomly confronted with, even if they reasoned for it's right to exist.
iOS is a Shopping Mall "No Porn Stores Here Please".
If this were a question of governmental or bans in the web, that would be a different kind of question entirely.
Most shopping malls I go to don't block me from entering any malls that they don't own.
It astounds me how many people are willing to give Apple a free pass on this inexcusable behaviour. Microsoft got the crap sued out of them just for pre-installing IE on a bunch of computers, imagine if they also tried to make it impossible to install any competing browsers, and tried to claim that it was illegal to wipe the OS and install Linux instead!
I'm not defending Apple's behaviour, I'm explaining it.
If we assume as a starting position that they want a 'closed universe' then their content policy is sensible, even if the 'closed universe' policy is not.
Of course this isn't a great solution but if you don't create your content to cater to the mass market by default, but just to put it out there, it's suddenly not your problem anymore if anyone under 18 clicks through the "I am over 18" banner.
Yes, it's stupid but my point is - just because it's labeled NSFW this doesn't really mean there is anything that sensible adults would deem NSFW.
Just because things are 'grey' doesn't mean we don't draw lines 'somewhere' and try to have a policy.
That's fair. Where are the other shopping malls though?
I'm happy to use Android and not being restricted to what I can install on my device :D
They are “protecting the brand” in their eyes but frankly nobody thinks of an app on the App Store as “Apple”. At the same time I understand their want to not be known as a place you can find porn, but they ship a /web browser/ so it’s not like they’re preventing anything.
But I don’t believe discord has done the best they can here. Telegram has a similar restriction but you can log on to the web version and flip a toggle and the app becomes unblocked as well.
Apple seems to be fine with secret settings on external websites.
Safari I think it was called?
Barely. They’ve aggressively pushed the app on mobile users for years, and they keep moving more and more of the mobile site behind a login screen. For example, you must now make an account to view more than the last few comments on a post on the mobile site.
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2016/08/the-secret-furry-pat...
How long until websites have to apply to get onto Google/Apple's whitelist-from-scratch for Chrome/Safari to allow browsing to them?
I just realized I'd be less than surprised if something not unlike this to come to be.
On a separate note, so much for all the third-party clients that Discord has rained down on. I otherwise would have figured a lot of the void could be immediately backfilled via the Discord API.