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Apple releases Final Cut Pro X

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Check out the incredibly thorough release notes for a list of what's new. Might need to Instapaper it as it's very, very long.

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4589

Entertainingly, that allegedly links to:

http://www.apple.com/finalcutprox

Which is a non-existent page. What they meant to say was:

http://www.apple.com/finalcutpro

...which does load.

They fixed it.

A friend of mine has posted a more in depth take on it: http://chrisduke.tv/1127/final-cut-pro-x-migration-final-cut...

Summary: FCP7 projects won't uprade/import to FCP X. Be careful if you're in the middle of something or use certain 3rd Party plugins.

Price: $999 -> $299

Happened to many Apple apps that went into Mac App Store.

If you're a user of Motion or Soundtrack you need to pony up another $49 for each of those. Still a hefty discount if you didn't have the software before, a minor price increase if you're used to paying the upgrade cost.

Motion or Compressor... Soundtrack and Color were apparently included in Final Cut X somehow... they merged them with FCP.

Whoops, thanks for the correction. Long day :).

I know a lot of grizzled video Final Cut users who are very nervous about the "iMoviefication" of the UI. But after reading these reviews I'm feeling optimistic about Apple's ability to deliver a simplified interface without sacrificing power-user features.

A lot of logic users have similar fears of logic turning into "GarageBand Pro". Under Apple's care Logic has lagged significantly behind the competition, but at least it's cheap now.

Lagged in what sense?

Features. All Logic's gained under Apple is a half-baked take comping feature and a cleaned up interface. And a cut-rate bundle price, of course. In the meantime the other big DAWs have really matured.

It won't import FCP7 files, but it opens iMovie files. no support for any tape based capture or export, save some Firewire devices. no third-party (playback, output, e.g., Kona) hardware support, no third-party codec support. No third party video plugin support. you cannot send or receive an EDL or XML file for online editing or finishing. (apparently) cannot apply (audio) effects, volume, and pan settings to a track. No multitrack audio recording

I like some of the new ideas, but I think I'll be clutching my FCP 7 for a while yet.

The iPhone parallels practically write themselves, eh?

this can't possibly remain true for long. strange that (if?) it's true upon release. where are you seeing this info?

is there a replacement for EDL?

Here's hoping that the rumors of the death of Logic Pro have been greatly exaggerated.... Looking forward to a potential Logic Pro X?

Death of Logic Pro?

Logic is in great shape and is loved by producers the world over. Final Cut was years out of date not only in features, but in UX. Logic is not dead... not even dying.

Logic team was distracted for the past year writing Garageband for iPad. Here's hoping they are now back to cranking on the next version of Logic in full force.

Got a source for that? I'm always fascinated at how Apple teams seem to work on several projects serially instead of forever working on the next version of some product.

It's hard to keep good developers, unless you let them work on something brand-new once in a while.

Eh, friend of a friend who was a "big shot mixing guy in LA" claimed that Apple was ditching the pro audio space now that ProTools isn't hardware bound anymore and has been taking more market share.

Then again, Apple has been really quiet about Logic Pro and surprised everybody with announcements of new versions every time.

If this is true I'm switching to MOTU Digital Performer. I've been waiting for an excuse to anyway.

Logic is riding on momentum from the emagic days. It was so good to begin with that even after years of neglect from Apple it's still competitive. It's pretty clear that the pro apps are not a priority at Apple. The development pace of Sonar, Cubase, Live, Performer and Protools is leaving Logic behind now and hardly anybody codes native AudioUnits anymore. They just write vsts and use a wrapper.

Pro audio is a niche market with a demanding clientele and it's clear Apple figures it can make a lot more money with music toys for iPads.

I can't imagine that they would kill it. It's used so much, and GarageBand doesn't offer the features that it does.

It's not competing with Garage Band, it's competing with Pro Tools, Live, Reason, etc. etc. depending on what you use it for.

No, I mean Apple can't kill Logic Pro and replace it with GarageBand.

What rumors? Logic already had its revamp a couple of major versions ago.

And they have killed FCP Server. Good news for us I suppose, we offer migration and integration with our asset management system.

It is currently attracting more one star reviews than five star reviews in the Mac App Store...

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