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I'm russian and April 12 is a sad day. We have a phrase: "Юра, мы все проебали" (Yura, we fucked up everything). The most terrifying though is if Gagarin stays alive till now and helps government to propose awful laws like Tereshkova (first woman in space).

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The phrase is somewhat common, yes, but it's not related to April 12 or Gagarin in any way. It is about the decline that happened later, not about Gagarin. April 12 is a happy day for most Russians, and ex-USSR people in general.

It saddens me to see how current Russian government (de facto Russian government, I should add) uses the achievements of the past to promote their own agenda though.

  - Daddy, daddy! Russians are in the space!!!
  - All of them?
  - No, just one!
  - So, why you are shouting then?

It's too early to celebrate.

"Проябать" in Russian means something like "to loose through laziness/carelessness/neglect", not "to loose through incorrectly performed action" where neglect is used in a rather broad sense also covering the case of "stealing a part under an assumption that it does not matter for the functionality".

So a more closer-in-meaning translation is "Yura, we lost everything through our laziness and neglect", which describes the situation much more accurately.

Mind my french, but it can also just mean loose without passive connotation, like in 'loosing a game', also can be in the sense of пропить (that means 'waste on booze', now how do you translate that one, in one word?)

The same way you'd say it in Russian. It's all about context.

"He drank through his inheritance."

'drank through' is two words, not one.

Literally it means to lose something through a sexual act.

It's spelled "проебать" (and it's a pretty foul language).

Quite correct otherwise.

What are you talking about? Russia has more cosmonauts [1] than any other nation!

[1]: https://twitter.com/ValBodin/status/1381474024119803907?s=19

Um, did you read what happened to Yuri who should have lived out a long life as a celebrated cosmonaut?

Likely it was an accident, but I see your point. Dead heroes are much better for propaganda than alive heroes: with the dead you don't need to worry what they might say or do. Valery Chkalov (AKA Gagarin of the 1930s) didn't live long, too.

The planet as a whole is also "we", and it doesn't have anywhere near enough.

Sure, but everything else, from politics to the economy to general public welfare is a more of a mess than not.

Things are okay in Moscow, so-so in the other tier-1 cities, and the rest of the country is languishing.

I think you didn't visit that link i provided...

i think that phase is referring to the deindustrialization/loss of industrial base in the countries of the former Ussr.

This is not a sad day, despite some hopefully temporary setback in the space exploration. А ты дурак.

How many launches Rogozin did in 2020 comparing to US and China? What about a trend for last 5 years? How about planned launches in 2021? There is a real decline and only a blind person cannot see it.

You can drink Vodka every year and be proud of Gagarin but it will not help to change anything about russian space.

This news is a tribute to Yuri and everyone involved. You may create your own topic on what Rogozin did or did not. I am pretty sure people will upvote.

IMHO, there is no point in shallow celebration. Especially if recall how many people made engineering work in literal prisons. Today is pinnacle of totalitarianism.

July 20 is more appropriate date to be proud of humanity.

November 9th, too.

The size of the Russian economy is smaller than the USSR. They're are US states with larger economies.

Economy size tends to shrink, when nearly half your population decides to leave.

No need for namecalling/insults.

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