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> CSGO player will tell you the anti-cheat doesn't work, I know first-hand.

> It is in my opinion the greatest loss to gaming that a classic, legendary game like Counter-strike got completely ruined by lack of care by a company that profits millions off of the case unboxings.

have you played the game in recent years? this has not been the case for me or the people I play with at all.

when playing on high trust-factor accounts, cheating is basically eliminated.

the experience for newer players is pretty bad but once you convince the system you're trustworthy, the algorithm does an extremely good job of not matching you with cheaters.

what valve lacks in boring, sensible solutions they make up for with interesting often much more complex workarounds (see: the open-world csgo danger-zone map shoved into a game with a room-based engine)

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Just 2 days ago on prime I ran into a string of cheaters. At one point we had 2 on the enemy team and it caused someone on my team to go toggle. 3 cheaters in one match. On old accounts with everything.

I know he couldn't be an expert but the person on my team says he can he blatant every game and never get banned because we're on prime. I don't want to believe that but then he had a lot of items and didn't mind spinbotting at all.

From my understanding the CS:GO matchmaking basically ranks how likely of a cheater it thinks you are, and matches you with people of a similar ranking. If you're queuing with people that are bragging about blatantly cheating you're probably in the "likely cheater" group.

This is all really just anecdotes, but here's my counter anecdote. I play csgo on and off with friends. None of us have ever cheated in csgo (or any other competitive online game for that matter). I'd say we get about 1 obvious cheater every 50 games, with 2-3 less obvious "maybe they're using wallhacks" as well. This is significantly improved from 3-4 years ago where we got a cheater once every 4-5 games.

Exactly! I get blamed for cheating and reported (trust me I don't) so I whenever I play matchmaking I'm also in the "likely cheater" group. That's why I play on third party server with their own anti cheat system.

I didn't queue with the cheater. He was a random on my team who happened to turn the cheats on when we were losing to a cheater. He left the game and everything to launch them.

The rest of us aren't cheaters. We have old steam accounts with lots of games, items, and play time. We have prime. We still got put into that lobby. I'm not good enough to look like a cheater on my playing alone either.

>when playing on high trust-factor accounts, cheating is basically eliminated.

Yes, but this is not a technical fix. You just hope that accounts with more "value" cheat less. Which is true in most cases.

That's another HUGE issue: stolen accounts are a massive underground market and while your skins can't be stolen usually, the account can be hacked on and get banned. You can get stolen prime accounts for under $5 and high value accounts for very cheap.

Trust does actually work a lot of the time. But you'd think account security would be easy for them to crack down upon.

Trust DOES help an immense amount. New players will NOT have good trust, though, hence why I said ask a new CSGO player.

If you play on Asia region there’s 8/10 chance you will be matched with a hacker from China. The hacking industry there is making serious money.

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