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On one hand, W3C doesn't matter anymore. Google is the internet. On other hand there's Apple with their Safari and I have high hopes that even if Chrome implements that, Safari won't so Google will have to play by Apple's rules in the end of the day. Weird power play we are to observe.

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That's not how it works. W3C has generally been the codifer of standards with member agreement, W3C generally has not made a standard ahead of an implementation.

Granted, XHTML was probably an example, an exception that proves the rule.

No. The browser vendors left the W3C. When the final browser vendor (Microsoft) left and joined the other vendors in WHATWG, the vendors collectively sent a letter to W3C asking W3C to please stop copying and introducing errors into the standards WHATWG wrote. See e.g. https://www.zdnet.com/article/browser-vendors-win-war-with-w...

Browser vendor here: We're definitely still in the W3C and collaborating in a number of areas there. The WHATWG situation is complicated, but we have not "left the W3C".

I don't know how much pull Safari has. Seems like a lot of web devs don't test on Safari.

I know this isn't damning evidence or anything, but I noticed recently that the header image on front page of Thunderbird's homepage[1] has an image of the app (in a Mac window, funnily enough) that doesn't size properly on Safari[2]. It squishes horizontally, I assume due to some weird CSS implementation difference.

[1] https://www.thunderbird.net/en-CA/

[2] https://i.postimg.cc/rwWmDynk/image.png

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