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Maybe it supports my point. People are getting infected and people are getting vaccinated. They'll be hitting herd immunity at some point at which point they are completely done with Coronavirus.

Meanwhile New Zealand, San Diego, and Ontario will continue to shut down over and over.

Looking forward to seeing the permanent downward trend in Brazil once they hit the inflection point.

More people under the age of 55 years old die of car accidents every year than of Coronavirus.

My point is solid, your point is vague.

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New Zealand has just opened up a 2-way travel bubble with Australia.. In 2 weeks we'll have free international travel between the countries, looking to include Singapore or Taiwan soon after.

We don't wear masks, our healthcare system isn't suffering and vaccines have started rolling out.

We waited, we played it safe - people survived and with industry and government support we're almost past it.

You all literally shut down again within the past month.

You're locked away from the rest of the world and have been for over a year.

Your economy has contracted 1% and with the continued border closures doesn't look promising in the future either.

New Zealand has only vaccinated 0.9% of the population to date, so this is going to drag on for years to come at this rate of vaccine distribution, with MORE economic downturn. I can't even imagine how many small businesses are gone.

You may even be forced to open up at some point so people can work. And your population will be completely immunologically naive.

Covid is not over for your country yet. Talk to me when you've reached herd immunity.

https://graphics.reuters.com/world-coronavirus-tracker-and-m...

Locking down 80% of a population of people under the age of 55 whose fatality rate is less than car accidents for over a year is madness.

> And New Zealand has only vaccinated 0.9% of the population to date, so this is going to drag on for a while to come.

They're waiting for vaccine delivery - expected in July. Australia and New Zealand both had shipments blocked by the EU and US.

Also the lockdowns we experienced over the last month have only been for a few days and only for a small region to ensure the outbreak is contained.

1% contraction for countries usually thought to entirely depend on international trade and tourism doesn't really seem major. But sure, your version of my country is probably more accurate than my own.

My point is...you're not over with Corona until your population is immune...so you're speaking too soon.

Going to be interesting to see what happens with quarantine free travel and an immunologically naieve population and shutdowns.

How on Earth can you work at Tulane and live in NOLA and write this? Were you here last March and April? Are you and I living in different planes of existence that merely intersect physically? Only closed islands are going to get to herd immunity naturally.

Look at Hotez's interview here: https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/health/a...

"To make things worse, we’re starting to see now, in the upper Midwest, a number of young adults getting very sick. The COVID-19 narrative has always been that it affects older individuals. That was never entirely true, especially among African American and Hispanic populations. But we’re seeing now a lot of young adults get sick. That gives me pause for concern — as does its transmissibility among young people."

I think the difference between our worlds is that I'm looking at statistics and you're looking at the newsmedia.

Orleans is at 5 new cases per 100,000 and 0 deaths.

AND Nola is 100% open, bars, restaurants, coffee shops, have been PACKED around the city.

Our vaccine rate is well below predicted R values for herd immunity of 50 to 75%.

The ONLY explanation is natural herd immunity filling the gap for vaccines.

As a matter of fact almost every state across the country is following this pattern.

Here's a reference:

Feel free to click through the different states and make yourself more aware of what's going on from a statistical perspective instead of a newsmedia perspective who make money through sensationalizing things.

https://usafacts.org/visualizations/coronavirus-covid-19-spr...

Sensational! Sensational! Sensational!

You really need to turn the news off and just pay attention to statistics.

The modern mainstream news is evil.

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