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At this point there are basically no non-Chinese mobile phone makers aside from Samsung and Apple. And even those devices are still manufactured in China, right?

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Here's a list:

    Apple – American
    Samsung Mobile – South Korean
    Nokia Mobile – Finnish
    Google Pixel – American
    Sony Mobile – Japanese
    LG – South Korean
    BLU Products – American
    Lava – Indian
    Sharp – Japanese
    Fairphone – Dutch
    Philips Mobile – Dutch
    Yotaphone – Russian
    BQ – Spanish
    Acer – Taiwanese
    Asus – Taiwanese
    HTC – Taiwanese
    Essential Products – American
    Cherry Mobile – Philippino
    DoCoMo – Japanese
    Panasonic Mobile – Japanese.
    Afrione – Nigerian
    Mara Phone – Rwandan
    Librem – American

Docomo is a carrier and just selling devices made by OEM (like Huawei), so not a manufacturer. Panasonic is abandoned long ago.

Kyocera, Fujitsu still making phones in Japan.

Thanks, but you've listed where those companies are headquartered, not where their devices are manufactured or where their main suppliers are located.

I wasn't able to track down the country of origin for many of them, but at least Fairphone is open about it, and 75% of its components are manufactured in China[1].

Apple devices are still mostly produced in China, with some smaller scale operations in India[2].

I would like to see Fairphone levels of transparency from all manufacturers, but until then it's safe to assume that any electronics are partially sourced from countries with existing manufacturing facilities and cheap labor such as China. It's a cost cutting measure that makes it unfeasible to move production elsewhere, even for giants like Apple, and downright impossible for smaller companies.

[1]: https://www.fairphone.com/en/impact/source-map-transparency/

[2]: https://fortune.com/2019/06/13/apple-iphone-china-production...

> Thanks, but you've listed where those companies are headquartered, not where their devices are manufactured or where their main suppliers are located.

Librem 5 USA is manufactured in the USA: https://puri.sm/products/librem-5-usa.

> BQ – Spanish

BQ is liquidating [0].

[0]: https://www.lainformacion.com/empresas/fabricante-moviles-bq...

Gigaset - German. I don't know exactly if they let them build in China, but they claim it's "Made in Germany"

Micromax in India assembles phones locally. Parts and design however are sourced from China.

Yotaphone is primarily a carrier/networking tech company. The mobile arm that created the Yotaphone e-ink/LCD phone went bankrupt in 2019. Their last device was the China-only Yotaphone 3 in 2018 [0].

[0]https://www.theverge.com/2019/4/19/18508418/yota-devices-ban...

Samsung mobile phone manufacturing left China long time ago. Most Samsung mobile phones are manufactured in Vietnam these days.

Practically speaking, no. After Samsung and Apple the next 10 or 15 largest smartphone manufacturers (excluding LG) are Chinese.

There's ASUS from Taiwan.

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