Translation technology may let humans speak with dolphins
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So he devised a test. He had four (human) volunteers walk through a prairie dog village, and he dressed all the humans exactly the same — except for their shirts. Each volunteer walked through the community four times: once in a blue shirt, once in a yellow, once in green and once in gray.
He found, to his delight, that the calls broke down into groups based on the color of the volunteer's shirt. "I was astounded," says Slobodchikoff. But what astounded him even more, was that further analysis revealed that the calls also clustered based on other characteristics, like the height of the human. "Essentially they were saying, 'Here comes the tall human in the blue,' versus, 'Here comes the short human in the yellow,' " says Slobodchikoff.
Amazingly, it doesn't stop there. Slobodchikoff's next move was to see if prairie dogs could differentiate between abstract shapes. So he and his students built two wooden towers on each side of a prairie dog village. They then made cardboard cutouts of circles, squares and triangles and ran them out along a wire strung between the two towers, so the shapes sort of floated through the village about three feet from the ground. And the prairie dogs, Slobodchikoff found, were able to tell the difference between the triangle and the circle, but, alas, they made no mention of the difference between the square and the circle.
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I wonder how aliens analyze our intelligence:
- sent round blue flying saucer - a lot of buzz
- sent stick-looking device http://abcnews.go.com/International/ufo-china-closes-airport... - a lot of the same buzz.
Conclusion: probably the humans can't distinguish the abstract shapes.
I want to give you 100 of my own karma points. I just do not know where this believe that we are better comes from. [This is totally hypocritical coming from me since I eat meat. Nevertheless]
I think humans have exhausted how far the _extensive_ (ie. size increasing) brain development of meat eating species can go - it seems we're near the biomechanical limits - the brain consumes ~25% of our body energy. The further development seems to require to "shrink the die" of our brain and/or increase/improving of the energy intake.
"Shrinking the die" is biological evolutionary process that will take time on the scale of several generations at least (Einstein's brain, smaller, yet more densely packed and having more energy generating cells than the average human's brain, shows that it is a viable, in principle, option)
Wrt. improving of the energy intake - i think we're on the brink (ie. in the next few decades) of bio-engineering of the meat-comparable and, this is much more important, more effective-than-meat energy carrying and generating proteins (or whatever compounds it will result in) for human consumption, and in result - move of the humans past the meat (as meat eating would be an artificial dumbing down of yourself) and we'll see the world in the new light. Meat consumption would become just an ugly habit of the past, like torturous executions (ie. burning at stake, disemboweling, quartering...) that were an enjoyable public spectacle just few hundreds years ago.
Do lions think they're better? Dogs? Raccoons? Barracuda? Dolphin? Seal? Any-other-carnivore/omnivore
Go home, UFOs. We're yet too dumb for you.
I immediate thought that, in part, the dolphins might be attracted by, intrigued by the cat's probably purring, sensing it through their jaws. But there seems to be a patience and curiosity there that speaks to significantly more than mere "animal instinct".
We already communicate with dolphins, and experiments have shown that they can understand the syntax and semantics of request/command structures (the same communication elements in different orders ('sentence structures', so to speak) have different meanings).
What will they say when we finally understand them? "Took you long enough."
I don't believe that communication between dolphins and trainers has been strictly one way. I'm pretty sure a trainer can easily read a lot from a dolphin's actions, sounds, etc.
And keep in mind, the other great apes are wicked smart, like smarter then small human children smart, way smarter then the smartest dog, but still not smart enough to say something like "Took you long enough to teach us sign language."
I agree with you, however, that communication is definitely two-way. Anyone with a dog knows that.
Still, interesting. And goes to show, cats are real charmers -- when they want to be. ;-)
"So long, and thanks for all the fish!"
http://www.futurehi.net/docs/Here_To_Alternity.html
http://www.erowid.org/culture/characters/lilly_john/lilly_jo...
iiiiaiiiiaiiiiiiiiiaiiiIjii... in dolphin that means "WTF" or "Of course"?
Dophin 1, "Hey I bet we can get that thing to say 'bite me' when it greets someone!"
Dolphin 2, "You think? Ok, every time we meet in front of them you say 'bite me' and i'll say 'wheree?'"
More to the point, though, we have no reason to assume that dolphins, any more than, say, apes, have the ability to "chat" -- to communicate about things displaced from the here and now. It's worth a go, of course, but our expectations shouldn't be too high going in.
But more importantly communication is the first step towards mutual respect if dolphins are sentient.
Remember the Golden Rule, and Uncle Ben's words:
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Uncle_Ben#.22...
Barbaric, no?
Translator: "I want what the dogs eating!"
It turns out every barking dog is saying "Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey!"
"Moonmoonmoonmooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooon!"