Is the “cult” of Y Combinator good or bad for Africa’s startup ecosystem?
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There are investors from sectors like gambling and construction, and the expectations are entirely different. Money might be released in waterfall-like tranches, meaning that a seed fund needs about 4 pitches to the same investor. Someone from say, a plantation background, also doesn't understand the challenges of doing blue ocean businesses - the market might not fully be there yet. They often undervalue customer understanding and product market fit, while overvaluing things like exit strategy and marketing.
A lot of the pitching becomes very investor oriented. I've worked on many apps that never have any users - I literally get more revenue as a two-member team than most companies I've work at does with a dedicated international marketing team. A lot of those users are also the investors; very often an app sells their product to the family owned corporations run by the investors. And because of the need for marketing, there's a lot of $1 products sold at 80 cents, where the 20 cents are written off as a marketing cost.
All these things are cardinal sins by the YC playbook. I'd say if any accelerator can match YC's record, they'd do very well, but few do, and many former colonies still don't have that "trust the entrepreneur" mindset.
I have mixed feelings about this article. On one hand, yes, YC gives startups in these markets a stamp that creates a sort of cult. Most of the startups/founders they pick are awesome, but YC invests without a ton of local context or diligence and so they definitely can get it wrong. But, they also get it wrong here in the US, and that's the nature of early-stage startups, but because the volume in the US is so high, it's not that big a deal.
Anyway the most important benefit I see is that local startups get access to YC knowledge and network. That's way more important than any amount of credits. The YC-alumni email list (Bookface) is especially valuable. There's just so much tactical knowledge in there. What email provider to people use? What should you use for mobile ads attribution? If you're based in the US ecosystem, you just ask your entrepreneur friends or your investors. If you're abroad, there aren't people to ask. There just aren't a lot of startups around, and even fewer that are further along to learn from.
YC is facilitating a huge transfer of knowledge to new ecosystems.
EDIT: another massive facilitator is 500 StartUps
Definition of Gatekeeping: the activity of controlling, and usually limiting, general access to something.
The internet tells me there isn't really an antonym for this word, which makes me feel better about failing to think up any myself. But I would imagine YC is serving to open a way for foreign money to flow in, not serving to control, limit and decide whom to let in or keep out.
If that is accurate, they really should do some research and write about that to educate people that "We absolutely aren't gatekeeping anything here. If people are using our activities as a proxy metric for what to throw money at themselves without doing a lot of research on their own, that's not us gatekeeping anything whatsoever."
I'm short of sleep and not heavily invested in creating some free PR resources for a multi-billion dollar company, but I imagine it would take a bit of research to come up with a good concept or metaphor to do this justice. However, it would likely be well worth the time spent on it in terms of making people in foreign countries feel more at ease with their activities.
I'm sure there are legitimate concerns on the ground in Africa about (things like) the potential impact of foreign money and foreign expertise flowing in without a lot of context and local knowledge to inform those choices. But this idea that YC is gatekeeping something is probably flat out wrong in a way that essentially drags their name through the mud baselessly.
It's too complicated to have a simple antonym that makes sense.
From the perspective of the person trying to get in: "gatecrashing."
Instead of trying to limit access, encouraging access: being a "barker."
Instead of being selective, being complete: doing a "rollup."
The phrase breaking new ground may also be useful.
Hyper cynically, SV/Valley VC funds investing in Africa's startup ecosystem is about the best thing that could happen in it -- they are the least ruthless of the sharks (as far as I can see) out there, and the business ocean ocean is full of lots of kinds of sharks.
As far as the demanding/shrewd/exploitative investor bit:
Sri Lanka:
- http://www.slguardian.org/2020/06/sri-lankans-feel-humiliate...
- https://biznakenya.com/how-china-took-over-sri-lanka-port/
Greece:
- https://apjjf.org/2017/13/Mathews.html
Ghana:
- https://www.dw.com/en/oil-promises-ghanas-dreams-of-black-go... (YT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b58b-BvWEpo) -- it's quite difficult to find negative coverage of the Ghana deal right now, but this provides some evidence for the idea that some of the promises are not being kept and weren't as beneficial as Ghana may have been lead to believe.
Again, depending on how you look at these (which is often a result of where you stand in the global economy), these are just brilliant business moves -- advanced risk analysis and the right convincing of the right people in power and unfortunate conditions for the other side. YC is probably not going to take over a sea port because of back-payment, or similarly a bank that wanted to innovate and develop neo-bank style operations (as an example).
In general I think it's safe to say that YC will be more forgiving on the revenue-target/KPI target side.
Do you have any sources that disprove or show bias in the links to previous deals that I posted[0]?
I didn't even do an exhaustive search, these are just cases that I've heard of/seen/read something on until now.
It's hard to find the full deal information on the percentage stakes of various VCs by countries in African tech companies, but YC is open about that $125K for 7%[1]. Much of their organization is set up to be as transparent for founders and early stage companies as is possible. They are more forgiving than most other VCs in the US itself, and certainly more than banks in the US. this is a sweet-heart deal, giving entrepreneurs who were previously without access and opportunity an instant million dollar valuation. This is quite the sweetheart deal -- and YC does it's best to help the founders build their businesses very actively with some of the world's leading experts in those areas (again, the expertise you can only get from running something like YC).
How can a random investor from just about any other country (it doesn't even have to be China) be a more advantageous partner unless they were essentially positioning to purchase or absorb the company? It'd have to be quite a strategic partner to make this $125K/7% deal not worth it.
1) An article mentioning how China paid a substantial amount of Euros for a majority holding in the Piraeus port, when the European nations were squeezing Greece. According to Varoufakis, the initial deal was even better for Greece, which China investing a very risky 1.5 billion in greek bonds (essentialy Junk)
2. The second link dont mention China at all, it is just an article about the oil explotaition in Ghana and how it had presumably failed to bring the promised goods to the people in the villages where oil is prospected. Even if true, the promises are made by local politicians, not Chinese bureaucrats.
3) The SriLankan links is about how a journalist feel humilliated because China has been granted the lease of a SriLankan port after lendings up to 5 billion dollars have gone unpaid.
So these are the kind of links you are bringing to the table, multibillion dollar deals in China get some leases, and you are compariung them with 125k USD for 7% of the company. Last time I checked China does not own 7% of Greece, Sri-Lanka or Ghana, so I must conclude you are a dumb person letting his latent racism to take over or you are aware you are acting on bad faith and you just dont care.
Did you miss the word "likely"? Please show me the evidence that Y Combinator is unlikely to be less exploitative and I'll be happy to retract my comment.
Founder's feelings have nothing to do with it, feelings can go any which way, but past dealings where facts are revealed do not lie. The facts on China's deal making around the world have shown them to be shrewd negotiators and especially effective when making deals with less resourced countries (and normally gaining some strategic piece of infrastructure/land as a result). It's not that other people didn't do this (other countries have absolutely done this), but my comment was about another major recent investor in Africa -- China.
It's not a certainty that they will be particularly exploitative/shrewd/demanding this to African founders (though there is already evidence of some other industries where the recipients of grant money were less than thrilled), but I view that outcome as more likely because YCombinator has no such record at all. Are you positing that even with the past behavior the probability is still 50/50 between the two?
YCombinator's terms are very forgiving -- obviously there's some conversion here in terms of deal size and outcomes/pieces involved (YC is a very narrowly focused organization in comparison to most VCs). 125K for a 7% slice of what could be 0 is not a deal you're going to get from a random nation or bank (no matter where they are).
People cannot prove a negative or the "unlikeliness" of something. Comparing multi-billion infrastructure deals with an accelerator is ridiculous to say the least.
You're seriously drinking the kool-aid. Y Combinator isn't really that unique in what they give you, Tech Stars, 500, Imagine K12 (which is now a part of YComb, but before wasn't and had effectively the same deal), AngelPad and others have very similar deals to Y Combinator.
Not to mention in China they have programs (such as Chinaccelerator) very similar to Y Combinator that are - you guessed it - almost the same deal (6% equity for $100K).
I personally think Y Combinator is the best accelerator given its location and alumni, but let's not exaggerate. I doubt any of these accelerators exploit any of their alumni. Accelerators and Series funding are not the same at all.
I'm not asking for conclusive proof, just any evidence. If there was absolute proof or evidence to the contrary I'd like to see it an change my opinion.
> You're seriously drinking the kool-aid. Y Combinator isn't really that unique in what they give you, Tech Stars, 500, Imagine K12 (which is now a part of YComb, but before wasn't and had effectively the same deal), AngelPad and others have very similar deals to Y Combinator.
I'm not -- I'm not put YC on a pedestal, I have no desire to join it or apply to it, I don't live in SV, I merely browse this site and find interesting stuff here and enjoy the high signal/noise ratio. That said, YC has been running for a very long time, where do you think these other accelerators got the idea to charge what they do, and think the model could work? It's not a winner-take-all scenario (more companies doing what YC does is good) but thinking that YC is not differentiated from other players in this field is not correct.
Also, I meant that the offer is bonkers from the point of view of the world -- $125k is an insane amount of money by world standards to give out for a non-majority stake of an imaginary payoff that could (and often does) go to 0.
> Not to mention in China they have programs (such as Chinaccelerator) very similar to Y Combinator that are - you guessed it - almost the same deal (6% equity for $100K).
Right, but are they giving these deals to the African countries -- if you wanted to make the point, then a simple source where they gave a similar deal to an early stage african country under similar terms as YC would be enough to make me change my mind. I haven't seen this yet. When I check their portfolio companies page I don't see Africa as a location[0].
> I personally think Y Combinator is the best accelerator given its location and alumni, but let's not exaggerate.
I didn't think I was exaggerating.
> I doubt any of these accelerators exploit any of their alumni.
This is a pretty naive statement. Accelerators and VC at large do not exist on sheer good will, though there are some that show more good will than others.
> Accelerators and Series funding are not the same at all.
Going to ignore this, I didn't make this point. The claim that they're not the same "at all" is dubious in and of itself but is off topic.
Is that really true ? My gut says no.
So in effect, YC is expanding the pool of potential investment dollars flowing into Africa.
The author would prefer that YC stay out of africa . Yet the article never refutes if YC leaving means other VCs depart africa too.
The forgotten companies would remain forgotten. Doesn't seem to be a good argument to stand on.
I am a South African. I studied African political history, public policy, and political philosophy at a number of South African universities. At most institutions as an undergraduate I was taught about the peril of IMF and World Bank loans etc.
So I’m not surprised that this kind of thinking is being applied to private investment via bodies like YC.
One of the biggest problems with startup ecosystems outside of SV is the perception that funding is a necessary step to start a disruptive high-growth company.
Talent and time are the only two things that founders really need and it's the main thing that early-stage investment buys anyway. There are lots of ways to collect and organize these two resources - heavy capital investment is just one of them.
In places where the cost of living is low and where there are talented people the investment models should look different to SV.
The very nature of innovation and disruption require new perspectives and ways of thinking. Global entrepreneurial communities could rise above and beyond SV if they stepped out of its shadow.
I'd wager good money that if you picked a dozen random AFRINIC members and talked to their neteng people most if not all of them would have never even heard of ycombinator.
Maybe if the context is in some new software-as-a-service startup, sure...