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Did Symbolics Pte. Ltd. bother to contact Luke Tierney[1] before taking both his code and name and co-opting them as their own?

Edit: [1] https://homepage.stat.uiowa.edu/~luke/xls/xlsinfo/

(I guess the downvotes for a reasonable question provide the answer)

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Care to provide any background or supporting information, for those of thus that don't know who that is or about this project?

http://homepage.divms.uiowa.edu/~luke/xls/xlsinfo/xlsinfo.ht...

This is Lisp-Stat.

This website looks like a (sad, tasteless) April Fools' joke.

No joke at all. It is from 1998 or earlier.

Re-read my comment.

Right, from my understanding, Lisp-Stat originated with Luke Tierney.

The latest efforts to extend and work with those ideas/code base are at https://github.com/blindglobe/common-lisp-stat and work by Tamas Papp (https://tamaspapp.eu/post/orphaned-lisp-libraries/)

Forking open source code is fine, but why try to take over the name?

It has already made some damage. Now this website is the first result you get when you type "lisp stat" in DDG.

Hopefully when the joke is over, the owner will instead redirect to Tierney's site or replace this nonsense with something more respectful.

At least it's making it (along with more libraries) available out of the box and in Jupyter notebooks. How do you get the first lisp-stat? https://homepage.divms.uiowa.edu/~luke/xls/xlsinfo/node1.htm... I laugh in despair.

And the website \o/

On a quick scour of the source code at https://github.com/Lisp-Stat/lisp-stat, I can see that there's a `Copyright (c) 1991 by Luke Tierney` on `base/variables.lisp` in the initial commit. Interestingly, this code is released under the Microsoft Public License, which includes the text: "Copyright Grant- Subject to the terms of this license, including the license conditions and limitations in section 3, each contributor grants you a non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free copyright license to reproduce its contribution, prepare derivative works of its contribution, and distribute its contribution or any derivative works that you create" which would imply that the answer to the GP's question needs to be "yes".

Note: I have no idea who Luke Tierney is or what his contributions to this area might be, which is a failing on my part.

There's a mention and some short history on this new project's About page.[1]

[1] https://lisp-stat.dev/about/

Yeah. No closer to understanding the licence situation, but it's looking interesting.

Luke is the architect of xlisp-stat and current R code team member.

It's been April fools Day for about five hours already in Singapore.

But I'm sure that has nothing to do with this and it''s 100% legit.

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