Arm says latest Huawei chip not subject to US export controls
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The Kirin 980 was pretty damn good (faster and cooler than Exynos and the SD845 of that year) but otherwise, you might as well get a Samsung or whatever.
Instead, it's Xiaomi that's offering good value for a lower price. And they have Google Apps on their phones. Is it a known brand in North Africa? Their accessories at least are good quality and cheap.
I'd never buy Apple, don't fall for their trap haha
I also loved how open the Ascend P6 was, played with its SoC to my heart's content. Now you can't even request an official bootloader unlock for Huawei phones :/
> Huawei now makes the same stuff as everyone else
Did you not answer your own question? Why not buy their product if the value is better?
https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor...
As such, TSMC is subject to them. Huawei was TSMC's number 2 customer prior to the controls announced last year.
The article talks about devices manufactured by HiSilicon (a Huawei subsidiary).
Also, I would argue in terms of Chipmaking equipment the European part is the part that is non replaceable. For all its complaints about China stealing IP and nobody being able to force it, only the US Department of State can walk into a contract and strongarm countries not to sell things to the people they don't like[1].
But then again its not as black and white since China did indeed steal a lot of TSMC IP (or rather we don't know what they stole, but it's probably a safe bet to assume that they did during their last breach).
[1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/on-small-business/ho...
I think a better way to look at it is: the US is allowing TSMC to use export controlled equipment outside the US, in exchange for TSMC abiding by their restrictions.
> Cambridge-based Arm uses intellectual property originating from both the US and of non-US origin, a staff member told Yicai Global at the Arm Vision Day.
Wouldn't ARMv9 then become US technology, and subject to US export controls?
From a financial perspective, this is a large market that was suddenly removed from the income statements of TSMC, ARM, and likely many other Western industries.
> a staff member told Yicai Global at the Arm Vision Day
That was March 30. Other sites I could find also credit Yicai. So if you want independent confirmation, you'll have to wait until someone else asks ARM, or they publish a press release. (Also, props to the submitter for finding the original source.)
2019 article that has the follow quote
>Huawei will have access to the company’s latest Armv9 architecture that may come out in the next few years, and its usage of the current Armv8 architecture is also not affected, said Liang Quan, marketing director at Arm China.
I have seen rumours that Huawei may use Samsung as fab? I don't quite understand why Samsung would not be under the same constraints as TSMC. But perhaps the boycot of Huawei was more due to a deal between the Trump administration and the Taiwan government rather than an actual legal constraint. Much in the same manner as the US succesfully has lobbied for Huawei bans in most of the Western world.
https://www.sammobile.com/news/samsung-manufacture-huawei-5n...
Samsung could manufacture Huawei’s next 5nm Kirin processor
A new report coming out of China claims that Huawei’s next 5nm chipset, the Kirin 9000L, will be made by Samsung Foundry.
This is a legitimate situation. Why should Huawei continue to financially support ARM? When their legal usage of the ARM IP is now on shaky ground, just because some president can easily revoke their privilege to use it.
I say fck it! Burn down their IP with ARM. Billions of dollars wasted, and go all in with RISC-V. At least this way, they can at least control their own future, and create an alternate and independent China technology IP system.