I urge you all to go back and look at how people discussed things on HN, perhaps 8 years ago and see how civil, well behaved, critical, funny and deeply interesting HN discussions were. Now-a-days, HN is extremely polarized. Go against the grain or mainstream narrative despite of deeply logical, rational post with sources? People will downvote you into submission.
This is akin to Belgian royalty warning against profiteering in the prosthetics industry.