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What's good for society might not be good for the individual.

The society must work for each individual, if it doesn't, it causes issues like this.

That's why the Soviets failed, their incentive system totally doesn't work for majority of the individuals. Individuals are not to fault here as in there.

True, but a broken society isn’t good for the individual either.

But a broken society might maybe affect you somewhat vaguely in decades, but putting your neck out now can demolish your career today.

Yes, it’s a question we all need to ask ourselves. If you have kids though or plan to live more than a decade or more, the choice is hopefully one of bending towards the greater good for society rather than the individual.

I have kids. Providing for them is number one, becoming a meaningless casualty of culture wars doesn't help their future at all.

Also, in the spirit of guilt by association, kids may become collateral damage too.

It’s not meaningless at all. It’s a great example for your kids to show them how to do the right thing even when it’s hard.

"Son, you may not understand why you're getting taunted, bullied online, and threatened by anonymous people with violence now, but in 15 years you'll come to appreciate what I stood up for and that'll erase all of this traumatic social ostracism I brought on you inadvertently and without consulting you by sticking to my guns."

Yeah, that's some great parenting... </Sarcasm>

Or. We are living in a car and I don't know if we will have dinner today, but let's keep our chin up while we dumpster dive for food because we stood for what is right

I remember my dad telling me that if he had been accused of being a Communist during the McCarthy red scare, he would have said or done whatever was asked of him (named names, etc) so that he could keep working and supporting his family. I thought it was a cowardly perspective but now I'm a father myself I totally get it.

Funny enough, my great-grandfather was Joe Welch who famously stood up to McCarthy. It's hard for me to imagine him not standing up to those baseless accusations and waiting/hoping for someone else to do it.

sure it is. you take advantage of it. some white/east asian woman at work being annoying and you feel you can't voice your grievances with HR without being labelled sexist? deepfake her saying some nastyness and put it up on youtube. make as much money as you can and give nothing back to anyone who isn't your own immediate family and teach your children to do the same. amass all the wealth you can, subvert and destroy your competition and never be alone with a woman who isn't your mother, sister, wife, or daughter. do not hire anyone who isn't a white or asian man, lest they think you stepped on their toes and get the woke twitter mob to harass your family.

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