If Amazon is your best option, then you should be grateful for it.
If I went to work everyday, complained loudly about how much the job sucks, I wouldn't have a job anymore and I'd understand. To think I'd be able to criticize my organization and still be entitled to a job is lunacy.
erode peoples' standard of living, erode the laws protecting them from abusive working environments, force them into a position where they only have the option of working for one company, and then blame them for trying to ask for better conditions.
If you went into your job every day and criticized the job with a coworker, you would in fact not lose your job (or have the option for a nice settlement), because American labor law specifically protects workers' rights to talk about their working conditions?
Why should these people get any other type of consideration.
We're asking them to treat people with the minimum of respect and dignity.
Do you understand that some people don't have that option? Or cannot move to a new location? Through no fault of their own?
Why can't people use the powers they have delegated to the government to put a stop to these practices, for the growing class of people who are trapped in jobs with conditions similar to this?
If I'm destitute and I'm at a soup kitchen; I wouldn't complain about the food even if it sucks, because the alternative is to starve.
It's the same thing here, beggars can't be choosers. If you want the government to change the rules, go ahead. But don't demonize the company that's literally putting food on your table because you don't like the only job you can find.
I'm conscious I'm starting to sound like a broken record, having posed this question several times in another recent thread, but where is the evidence that Amazon has access to an endless supply of workers who are at-once sufficiently able-bodied, able-minded and otherwise capable of doing the work Amazon needs done, and also so desperate for work that they will tolerate any level of mistreatment?
My claim is not that Amazon has no room to improve pay and conditions for its workers. I'm sure it does. I'm just questioning the assumption that Amazon is able to endlessly exploit and mistreat its workers without consequence.
It's a shame that any country allows conditions like this to exist, under the excuse of "the free market will solve this problem, just get a job elsewhere"
The balance of power between government, people + companies has made this extremely difficult, and the "free market" is just optimizing for this imbalance by allowing conditions to get this bad in the first place.
You have, by my count at this time, 14 posts in this thread.
What is it that you might have left to say that you were unable to put in to words in the first 13?
Where there's smoke there is fire is the saying, so maybe it is that bad but that's not what I understand it to be.
Edit: Also from all the documents we've seen it would appear Amazon leaks like a sieve so I would also expect way more damning evidence to have appeared by now.
This specific Amazon incident is just one of may incidents across many major employers where workers end up suffering. Regulations should exist that prevent this from even happening, but political will doesn't seem to exist, sadly.
Blowing up this incident helps refocus the attention on trying to fix this nationwide, rather than this specific incident at amazon.
Okay if the goal is bringing attention to general workplace issues across major companies, then why is it only ever Amazon taking flak? What is special about them that they're the whipping post? Walmart is egregious, systematically so, shown time and time again over decades, but Amazon is the beacon of workforce mal-treatment? Please.
This is some the most impressive circular logic I’ve seen in my day.
If you want to change the justice system, go ahead. But there's a difference between changing labour laws and going after one specific company.
For example the piss bottles. It is a thing for truckers and delivery workers to piss in bottles. UPS people, FedEx people, Truckers more than the others will talk about it anonymously. But everyone acts like Amazon isn't acting within the unspoken norms of society.
Well I would certainly never want to work for an organization that would fire someone, especially a good coworker, for this.
As we drift back into company towns here in the Midwest US I do hope change will come before company scrip.
There's a massive power imbalance between individuals and corporations. In a way they are modern royalty, controlling a large amount of the world
Ha-Joon Chang's 23 Things They Don't Tell You About Capitalism should be mandatory reading for any person commenting online about the modern economic system.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/23_Things_They_Don%27t_Tell_...
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/8913542-23-things-they-d...