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Comment by maxwell | Hacker News Reader

In the end, government is beholden to corporations. And corporations can't do without network freedom.

depends on which corporations you ask, Comcast would love to be able to sell you just certain websites in a package deal. Starter package, including Fox, CNN and Comcast.com, for 30$/mo next step up is the premium package including Facebook and twitter for 60$/mo.. but if you want YouTube and Netflix you need the platinum package for 120$/mo.

I really hope that scenario never happens, but if we get more Lulzsec like things we will get laws making sure everything is regulated and monitored.

I think it reflects worse on the companies getting hacked than the need to fight hackers. Of course there will be hackers, but how many people now don't trust Sony or Citi?

that is very true, but the media seems to spin it purely against the big bad hackers. Trust me, I love that these companies are finally getting a reality check! I mean the Citi hack was URL modification. please thats like figuring out if theres http://something.com/2.jpg there is probably also 1.jpg and 3.jpg

Does anyone know what stack Citi was using?

Probably something very large, very expensive, and very custom. I would think something like a custom contract-deal IBM solution.

Here is the whatweb output: ./whatweb https://online.citibank.com https://online.citibank.com [200] X-UA-Compatible[IE=EmulateIE7, IE=EmulateIE7], UncommonHeaders[jid], Cookies[JFPWebAppInfo,JSESSIONID], Title[Citibank Online], Country[UNITED STATES][US]

Looks like something Java-based. It's fun that sometimes software gets so large that they miss a gaping security hole like this.

While I strongly dislike telecoms, what you're describing is pretty much the opposite of a highly regulated Internet.

I suspect telecoms would actually oppose most forms of regulation a government may be interested in, not out of any desire to protect their customers, but simply because it would decrease profits.

It's still a form of regulation, highly or otherwise.

Ahem, who has all the guns and tanks and helicopter gunships in your country? I'll bet it's not the phone company. A corporation has 1% of 1% of the real power of any government.

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