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YouTube just isn’t working for me anymore [video]

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33 pointsdan123410 comments

This just seems like a manifestation of the class shift that happened in the internet era. Don't be an idiot - you don't work for youtube. You don't work for Youtube, you don't work for Youtube, Uber, Facebook or Apple. You're a company that has a business relationship with Youtube, Uber, Facebook or Apple. A company that solely exists for your business relationship with the aformentioned, and the business relationship resembles a BDSM relationship more than a traditional relationship, but that's fine, because that's what you knowingly signed up for when you decided to contract with youtube.

And now, you want to come to Youtube's customers and complain about youtube to them.

This is going to sound very harsh, but essentially what I'm saying is that this isn't an issue with youtube, it's a political issue about power dynamics in corporate and monopoly power, and these surface level outbursts seema little... naive. Especially when there's no mention of context - which is that this guy basically built his business on sand.

Youtube completely fucks with this guy and his last phrase in the video "Hope to see you on this bloody platform next sunday". Well that's great leverage isn't it.

>This just seems like a manifestation of the class shift that happened in the internet era. Don't be an idiot - you don't work for youtube. (...) essentially what I'm saying is that this isn't an issue with youtube, it's a political issue about power dynamics in corporate and monopoly power, and these surface level outbursts seema little... naive

Well, what's naive is to think that these vloggers would even have an audience or income stream if they didn't start on YouTube (or a similar platform) where the eyeballs were.

Heck, even now with 600K people knowing about him and subscribed to him, if this guy moves off of YouTube, he is probably going to lose a big chunk of his audience and thus income.

So, the lecture about power dynamics etc is a little trite. Sure, if he could he would do it on his own terms, in his own website/domain, with his own 100% of the ad revenue and so on. But it's just not realistic below a certain level of audience, and often not as lucrative at any level.

My point isn't that he should go off and set up his own youtube, my point is that he's completely failed to address the root cause of why this is happening and his suggested resolution "Hey youtube please be really nice and help me on this particular issue" is completely missing the forest for the trees- which is funny because at the beginning he gets so close to it. He works full time, everything he does gets sent directly to Google. In return Google pays him money. He is.... an employee with no employment rights.

> BDSM relationship more than a traditional relationship

BDSM relationship are probably more communicative and saner than traditional relationship. Interactions with big-tech is probably closer to casting couch.

> the business relationship resembles a BDSM relationship more than a traditional relationship

No. Mutual "consent" and "communication" are cornerstones of the BDSM community.

Google doesn't believe in either of those.

I sense that most of his frustration is the result of having nowhere else to go.

For a long time I've wondered why all these people sat around and watched Amazon get bigger and bigger and BIGGER ... and noone pushed 50B onto a table somewhere and said: Go gettem.

He's not just complaining, he's demonstrating specific YouTube technical failures: @2:34, unable to respond to comments. @3:07 cant' login to creators studio. @3:27 impotent tech support. @7:36 links in his descriptions don't work properly any longer.

I support regulating YouTube as a utility and requiring data portability in the hopes better services can add value to the content/community in front of the videos.

The commenting system is an incredible joke. I don't think that ANYBODY on the YouTube team is working on improving that for like decades probably...

As a user I find YouTube’s home page suggestions awful. It suggests videos 7 years old, videos I’ve already seen, or Minecraft videos because my daughter watched one once on my account. All the while, the videos I actually care about from channels I’ve subscribed to are nowhere to be found.

I'd be willing to put $5 down on a bet that it is an integer overflow somewhere in youtube's database (or a hash collision), the longer and more active you've been, the sooner this will hit.

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