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The fact that AMD had the best-performing CPU by a 2x factor for the past 4 years probably plays a role too.

That seems at least a bit hyperbolic - AMD has pushed intel a lot in the past four years but it wasn't until the past year or so that they have potentially started outperforming Intel (depending on workload) in what is likely to be a 'who has released more recently' kind of competition for a while.

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cpu-hierarchy,4312.html

Latest benches have AMD and Intel winning in about the same number of tests.

The first graph in this article doesn't include Ryzen 5000 series processors.

By their own tests later AMD has top 4 positions for both single-threaded and multi-threaded workloads. Intel came out with their Rocket lake line of CPUs after Ryzen 5000 and Rocket lake can't match up.

Even before Ryzen 5000, anything that wasn't single-threaded Intel could never beat; and had way worse performance per watt.

Weird, it definitely includes them for me, in all six images and it's exactly like the parent said (some Intel, some AMD).

Maybe you are confused because Threadripper is at the top in some above the 5000 series?

AMD is killing it with the 5000 series, but it's just barely edging out Intel in these benchmarks. The whole 2x figure was a little absurd.

It’s been true before that the losing architecture can juice their numbers by making big hot chips that use tons of power. Intel is so far behind that this is strategy is hard to continue. They can keep in the conversation by giving you more cores for less dollars, but those are dire straits for the company.

Its hard to continue but they have just posted great financials so only need to scrape through to 10 or 7 nm then they will probably go back to stomping AMD. AMD's documentation is poor, software is poor, marketing is also not great (My next computer will be an AMD but I wouldn't bet on them having a run anything like Intel's over the last decade)

AMD most definitely started outperforming Intel in performance per dollar in the last year forcing Intel to implement huge price cuts to remain competitive.

The original Zen architecture released in 2017 was not the best performing CPU on the market by any metric. It wasn't until Zen 2 and Zen 3 that AMD fully caught up.

If $/perf on multithreaded workloads is your metric then it did beat Intel from what I remember.

I believe it took until Zen 2 for the AMD high end to beat the Intel high end in multithreaded perf, and until Zen 3 for AMD to take the single threaded perf crown across the board too.

It occurs to me now that AMD probably would have taken the multithreaded crown from Intel with Zen 1 if Intel hadn't upped their (consumer socket) high end from 4 to 6 cores in the same year.

Although it's hard to say whether that was a direct response to the threat from AMD or not.

Doesn't that correspond to the globalfoundries contracts?

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