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Donald Trump is creating his own social media network

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Moderation of posts will be their downfall, morally and probably legally

We’ll probably also find out if the depths of society can get even weirder than /r/incel

I am also curious if they have solved the issue of hosting yet another white supremacist Twitter.

A somewhat good move, tbh.

He has followers and nowhere to converse. And it's not just 1-to-many. His followers want to talk among themselves.

As long as he can keep the site out of a legal problem. It can be a decent hit.

Parlor is way too extreme.

Necessary disclosure: I'm in no way a trump supporter. 99% of social networks fail, but this one may have a good foundation to succeed.

Not trying to be political, I just... hope the service provider gets paid in advance.

With other sites like Parler there was a reasonable expectation going in that maybe these sites would be ok. And then they violated terms of service. I don't think Trump is going to pass KYC checks for any decent company.

Now SuperPAC funds can be used like VC, and just when the world so desperately needs another G+

Not sure how they plan on turning a profit. Twitter, reddit, et al have been working on pacifying their platforms for years in order to make them palatable places to advertise

Donations from supporters?

Probably, on top of injections of cash from his Wallstreet cronies. I don't think it will prove to be sustainable

half a country still supports Trump, conservatives voices are aggressively silenced.

Donations can keep it afloat until the next Trump term.

I don't want to devolve into politic talk on HN, but both of these claims are debatable. We'll see if Mr. Trump can keep this business venture afloat! I'm excited to see what happens

Mypillow ads?

Money laundering has long been a mainstay of Trump business models.

I'm curious to see if they'll go with a Mastodon derivative with ActivityPub, as they'll likely won't be able to publish a mobile app directly tied to it if the comments are a bit too extreme for Google and Apple.

I think this is a win-win. Twitter and Reddit don't have to moderate Trump communities and Trump's supporters can speak their minds freely.

and the echo chambers isolate further...

we have had nazi forums for decades, hows this gonna change the way in which nazis want to orgqnize

what makes you think conservatives are equivalent of 'nazis'

prehudice due to msm brainwashing I would say. its a shame that our society is so well educated and still not able to not put a label on everybodys head

I think he means the twitter echo chamber.

Twitter as a product seems to be completely built around reinforcing existing viewpoints. For example:

* You can't convince anyone of anything in 280 characters. So the content just reinforces existing beliefs.

* Likes and retweets means that posts that get a strong reaction will overtake everything else. This means everything is either optimised for inducing anger or is a joke.

* The product is built around cults of personalities rather than letting the content speak for itself.

* Distribution via quote tweets mean the audience has been primed on what to think about something before they read it.

I don't think there was ever any chance that Twitter could facilitate a meeting of the minds.

What is the number of characters required to convince someone of something?

Probably like 281

If even want to explore a topic with some nuance you need more than 280 characters. Twitter's quota gives you three, maybe four, sentences. That's not enough to even define conflicting view points, let along explore those view points in depth.

I actually prefer it this way. I use Twitter to follow bleeding edge crypto accounts. I have many other interests but if Twitter started diversifying my feed with mainstream viewpoints I would stop using the service.

They have a hard game to play where they can't make everyone happy, so I sympathize. I don't spend a penny on Twitter so I can't complain.

How would you envision an alternative?

> and the echo chambers isolate further...

Echo chambers are a natural thing. People gravitate to others' who have similar viewpoints. Has always been true, now it's not just true in a physical sense but also digitally. The behavior hasn't changed a bit though.

Also, even people who claim to be "open-minded" would have a very hard time being exposed constantly to contrarian viewpoints: your mental health depends on anchoring, whether you realize it or not.

sign me up!

Given that nearly every other Trump project has been a cash-hemorrhaging catastrophic failure, I’m not seeing this going anywhere.

right, so he became a billionaire because of his constant failures.

He was born rich, and has been bankrupt many times. He would have significantly more money if he simply invested in index funds.

Trump can’t do complex things. However, just looking at hn comments gives me the impression that there are enough people in the industry who will be willing to help him out.

I bet you cried when it was proven Trump paid low taxes for his hundreds of millions in income, while also believing, without even a twinge of cognitive dissonance, how every one of his business ventures hemorrage money.

The reason he paid low taxes is precisely BECAUSE of the huge losses - they were greater than the income - one follows there other, there is no contradiction.

Of course, we will see how inflated those losses were in the course for the NY AG investigation.

I am sure it will be a bastion of free speech and all criticisms of Trump will be tolerated and encouraged, just like r/conservative

When Trump was booted from Twitter, the mantra was it one person was censored. The truth of millions downloading Parlor immediately after causing it to be the #1 downloaded app in iOS and Android app store, shows this was about millions of people not accepting censorship. Censor a few and our nation will divide. Almost like TV political news dividing our country between MSNBC vs Fox News.

Deplatforming is censorship. See Clubhouse being normal healthy large community speaking out loudly that they aren't accepting the deplatforming on Twitter / Facebook / YouTube.

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