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I thought maybe this Oakland video was an outlier in how bad it was, but I've watched several videos from the related videos, and the Tesla subreddit, and the system really seems like it's in bad shape. I'm really surprised that regulators are allowing this to be tested on public roads, and that Tesla hasn't pulled it. It is bad enough that when I see Teslas on the road now, I feel unsafe, because the system is so unreliable right now.

I would encourage anyone to watch the videos and make up their own mind, bc I do feel that people over-correct in their Tesla skepticism sometimes. But in this case, it seems warranted.

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> It is bad enough that when I see Teslas on the road now, I feel unsafe, because the system is so unreliable right now.

At the very least you should be required to put a visual sign that your vehicle is in "FSD" mode. Sort of like how we require "oversize load" signs so that others can take extra precautions around those vehicles.

In Japan, trucks are required to have three horizontal green lights above the cab, facing forward[0].

These indicate speed. I would guess FSD should have something similar.

[0] https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-usage-of-three-green-light...

My vote is for a big old Cylon eye in the windshield.

They all just look like knight rider, oh shit was knight rider a Cylon?

This sounds like great crossover TV.

Or Student Driver is a bit more apt.

> It is bad enough that when I see Teslas on the road now, I feel unsafe, because the system is so unreliable right now.

The vast majority of Teslas aren't using this FSD beta but the older and more limited Autopilot software.

You'll only have to start worrying about this in the next few months, or last year, or the year before, etc (depending on which Musk tweet you go by).

> It is bad enough that when I see Teslas on the road now, I feel unsafe, because the system is so unreliable right now.

Conspiracy theory: Tesla wants to show how bad the system is early on to raise public awareness and make people drive more cautiously around teslas.

And when that catches on, Tesla will start producing cars that look very similar to the ones from other manufacturers, so that people would have to drive carefully around every car as well.

They'd lose a lot of customers if their cars didn't look Musky.

> I'm really surprised that regulators are allowing this to be tested on public roads

One should add that in this case it's tested by consumers, not certified professionals.

There is no "certification" to be a babysitter for a self-driving car.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/regulations/california/13-CCR-Se...

Just ride as a passenger through a road with cars parked on the side. When I did that about 1.5 year ago, it missed about a third of the cars and pictured a couple as moving on the driving lane.

It's almost like it's in beta, right ?

So where can I opt out (as a pedestrian or cyclist)?

That’s an excellent point. Our government has failed to handle this situation, and these systems should not be allowed on the road. I also avoid Tesla cars like the plague and do not trust what’s going on inside.

Everything gets to be crap by adding the label beta. Texas electricity system, beta!!

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