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This [0] is much worse than the video in the article, IMO. It repeatedly tries to pull out in front of cars going 45+ miles an hour, in some cases giving the driver very little time to stop it. For level 5 (what Elon keeps claiming they will have very soon), they need to be able to go tens of thousands of miles without a crash-avoiding human intervention, not 10 minutes.

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uClWlVCwHsI

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The last one at 8:25 is really bad. And yeah, this is a much simpler situation than the city driving, and it still tries to kill the driver repeatedly.

Also, far from the worst thing in that video, but I notice the car sits waiting to turn with its wheels turned into the oncoming lane. You're not supposed to do that, because if you get rear-ended, you're going into oncoming traffic; best to keep the wheel straight until you're ready to turn.

Wow that's pretty bad. I only watched about half the video - but it appears the Tesla is patiently waiting for the oncoming traffic to clear, same as any human driver would. And then when there is a suitable gap in incoming traffic that any human could accelerate calmly and normally across, to finish the turn correctly, the Tesla just doesn't go. And then in the time that it took to be indecisive, more cars appear and it decides "nope, not time to go now either, keep waiting". Then at 4:05 in the video it does decide to go and almost accelerates right into the path of an oncoming car.

At 5:01 in the video it clearly has plenty of time to go and just doesn't move.

When learning to drive you have to learn how to have the judgment to commit to a decision, the car seems incapable of that and keeps reevaluating its decisions at every step. The problem is that in these cases you have to commit and accelerate to make it through.

Holy shit! This is worse than I would have expected! This is shockingly bad, real people are going to die if this is allowed to the masses. The fact that is beta is terrifying.

The thing thats more disturbing is looking at how inaccurate the car placement is for the traffic passing on the right hand side.

Lane shifting, totally wrong placement, everything moving in an arc.

That is a system not fit for purpose.

Looking at this video, I am very skeptical Tesla can solve FSD with the sensor suite on the car. The bounding boxes are all over the place; it doesn't look like the car can detect fast-moving objects beyond 20-30 meters very well.

It's astonishing... endangering other drivers on a highway for what is basically live testing an experimental feature.

Try being the drive by looking solely at the display. It’s a complete joke. If that screen represents the totality of the car’s perception of the world it’s simply never going to work. Look at the cars in the right lane, they’re fucking all over the place. Seeming changing lanes into each other constantly. It’s like it’s not even calibrated or something. WTF??

Then try making the left turn decision solely based on that screen. Good luck. Things don’t appear until they’re way closer than what is plainly obvious using vision.

Just watched the first two. I would've gone on those, probably wouldn't trust the ai to accelerate fast enough though.

Yeah, you missed where it seems to nearly pull out right in front of a truck hauling a boat (~8:27).

In the second or third one there is a truck coming and the box for it doesn’t appear on the display until it’s quite near, and then it disappears and reappears several times before the truck passes...

That is super stressful to watch.

Is flying that drone like that legal? I guess maybe if there was another observer?

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