She Came to the US to Study with Only $300 – Now She’s a NASA Director
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A person with a median income in the US probably lives much better than a person with a median income in Bolivia, yet they're both middle class relative to their own countries.
You’re right everything is relative, but I think US media often gives off the impression of South/Latin America as a completely poverty-stricken landmass that people can’t wait to escape from so they come by foot or boat from Honduras or Cuba or Venezuela or Ecuador or Nicaragua or something.
Also, I know people who own large properties in Colombia and a friend of mine owns a 500 cattle ranch in Bolivia (called La Pradera)... These folks are very well off, even by international and US standards. There is significant wealth in South America if you look in the right places.
And many parts of Colombia are very metropolitan and modern, which has come as a surprise to people I know in the US/Europe.
Either way, both spellings come from the same person (Christopher Columbus/Cristoforo Colombo).
People think, oh, imperialists messed with you, no wonder you’re poor!
No, it’s local mismanagement. Look at Panama. From banana republic to a democratic republic. People have to work for it. Their government has to be more honest than not. Eliminate corruption as much as possible.
Conversely look at San Francisco. So much money and so much corruption and waste. A decent government and it would be such a better place for everyone, including the poor.
Things can usually be fixed at a more immediate level if one can absolve everyone else of blame and do the hard work oneself.
That’s not to say there aren’t large-scale problems which require collaboration to solve, though.
Some random things I remember about Colombia:
* Cycling is big there. There are more bike lanes than pretty much anywhere else in Latin America. The practice of closing streets on a particular day for community cycling originated there (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ciclov%C3%ADa); in pre-pandemic San Francisco you might have encountered this as "Sunday Streets". It was mainly inspired by Colombia. Colombia has also had an increasing number of competitors in the Tour de France, including the 2019 overall winner, Egan Bernal (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egan_Bernal).
* It's very, very mountainous. People in the U.S. might know Peru (and maybe Bolivia) as Andean countries, but there are four countries in the Andean Community (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andean_Community) (which is primarily a trade bloc rather than a geographic designation), and the mountain range continues along the entirety of the west side of South America. Most of Colombia's population lives near the mountains, although the biggest cities are primarily centered in valleys, sometimes stretching far up into the hills. There are dramatic views all over the place. Three cities have aerial tramways (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aerial_tramways#_Colom...) either for commuters or tourists. I also heard that, as in other mountainous regions elsewhere in the world, the major cities have maintained significantly different cuisines and dialects because of how much effort it took to travel between regions, even when they were pretty close by as the crow flies.
* There are lots of public parks in the big cities, and they get a lot of use, even long into the evening. It probably helps a lot that it's quite warm in Colombia, but I also felt that this was a cultural thing. I was impressed at how much safer I felt in parks in Colombia at night than I would in urban parks in the U.S., probably in a Jane Jacobs "eyes on the street" sense.
* There are well-attended tech meetups and conferences. :-)
* "El Dorado" was originally a person, not a city, although it's not clear if the person really existed (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Dorado).
* They make delicious things with corn (really, probably true of anywhere in or adjacent to Central America).
* Medellín (unlike other cities in Colombia) has a large, effective metro system (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medell%C3%ADn_Metro).
Edit: A striking thing I forgot to mention is the calle/carrera system, where most cities make enormous use of numbered streets and avenues, to a much greater extent than ever I've seen anywhere else. Imagine if every city were like Manhattan, but with a numbered grid imposed over much larger parts of the city, even parts that weren't visually part of the main numbered grid. Colombian city streets are overwhelmingly numbered rather than named, and the Manhattan-style "5th at 40th" references are the norm.
As a fellow immigrant, they do! Unfortunately it can also come with a lot of sour grapes.
“Heck yeah you’re going to USA!!” from your friends soon changes to “Bah USA, I bet it sucks anyway”
I’ve spent some time there. Bogota feels like NYC.
Medellin is a gem. Cartagena, Zona Cafetera, ...
When Americans talk about places like Colombia, it sounds like some dirt poor place. There is a healthy middle class
Colombia is a great place where many Americans are retiring.
I meant she had little money, not the country – $300 to be precise according to the article. Bad grammar on my part including spelling.
Wow, really need to throw some (what you think are) insults in there huh?
The site is "goodnewsnetwork.org".. This is consensual pandering.
I think celebrating diversity for the sake of diversity is stupid and the piece is probably PR for NASA.
But let me highlight that these sort of stories play a very very big role in many remote parts of the world (I come from one). The fact that someone owns a car, a house and has plenty of food on table can also be an inspirational story for many and I am not exaggerating.
I remember in my school when teacher asked us what our ambitions were our answers were "getting a job". One girl said she wants to be a "graduate" and the whole class laughed thinking she thinks too much of herself. So let us not downplay her achievement as "middle manager", I hope her story inspires more Colombians and let us hope that it also helps us think better of Colombia as a country and its people.
It’s not like the article is claiming that this one success story means all of our gender and inequality problems are solved.
2. For those asking how she was able to work, while being here: A student can work part-time under OPT program. The catch is, your work needs to be somehow related to the course.
3. Most immigrants I know came to this country with a few dollars. So that is not that rare. However, when an immigrant succeeds, there will be press releases and news stories about that. It is not unique to her case. In some cases, it may be them promoting themselves. In most cases, it is the media running away with an inspiring story (if it is not sufficiently inspiring, don't worry - they will make it so).
4. It is better to see these kind of stories (albeit slightly hyped, dressed up) than those spreading gloom and doom.
Just feel good about it or don't.... Why wasting so much energy in trying to shit on a feel-good article? I really don't understand HN sometimes.
As one of my previous comments said, "HN is not full of smart people, HN is full of people who think they are smart." And I may very well belong to the second category but I don't comment on every issue at least.
The reality is that most immigrants are just like other humans; they're not "work machines" and their successes should be lauded but not used as something that everyone should necessarily aspire for.
Common examples are unconventional water sources in remote places when the real solution is to just give them the same thing the "rich people" are having, namely access to tap water.
It's basically a sort of hero complex. Poverty tourism also falls into this trap. People go to some poor slum or village, help out for a week and then leave. It looks good on social media but you accomplished nothing.
This article is the exact opposite. Poor person gets the same treatment as all the other rich people and unsurprisingly stops being poor.
Those are a common paths....
Her house cleaning job might have been something under the table.
Either way, kudos to her. Dealing with immigration over time is a true burden/hassle. People that jump all those hoops tend to be extra motivated.
> They asked about a form that people seeking American citizenship must complete. It requires applicants to say, for instance, whether they had ever committed a criminal offense, however minor, even if there was no arrest. A government lawyer, in response to questioning, said that failing to disclose a speeding violation could be enough to revoke citizenship even years later.
The Supreme Court rejected the arguments:
> The justices unanimously rejected the government’s position that it could revoke the citizenship of Americans who made even trivial misstatements in their naturalization proceedings.
However, it isn't immediately obvious at least to me that the SCOTUS can't revisit this issue in the future.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/22/us/politics/supreme-court...
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/26/us/politics/supreme-court...
of course those are not required documents, but how can someone get F1 without enough financial proof is a mystery to me.
I wonder if that character was based on her or if there are others at NASA who came from a similar sort of background.
That's a painful looking salary range.
If you look at the defense industry the contractors can pay way above the federal pay scales. That's why people with security clearances often just move to a contractor and they literally end up on the same project doing the same work but get paid double what they were while working directly for the government.
The problem isn't that NASA tops out salary in low-cost cities barely above entry/mid-sw engineer salary levels in SV, it's that entry/junior engineer salary levels are the "minimum" amount to live comfortably + save in those high cost cities in the first place. I don't think many would mind a pay cut (and the subsequent tax cut) if their rent + cost of living was cut accordingly.
(E.G. $150k in Houston, TX is equivalent to $312k in SF: https://www.nerdwallet.com/cost-of-living-calculator/compare...)
I buy a SF house and start paying the SF mortgage with my SF salary, I spend the next 10 years living there with a cost of living that's around 40% higher than Texas.
At the end of it I sell at SF market rates and move to Texas. I now have an extra $1.24m even if prices didn't increase by a cent.
Furthermore, your 1.24m figure is over-inflated, as CA has high state/local sales/income taxes. And don't forget San Franciso transfer taxes on real estate (around $50k-100k due at close)! Texas has no state or local income taxes, aside from property taxes.
Not to mention that if you have kids, you don't really have the luxury of waiting that long. You can put them into a better school district for cheaper, or you can even send your kid to top-tier well-known private schools for $25k/year rather than $60k/year. Even in-state college tuition at UT, a nationally renowned public university on par with UCLA and UC Berkeley, is only $5k/year, versus near $20k in CA.
I live in Los Angeles now, but I grew up in Dallas. Obviously I'm choosing to stay in California for a reason, but I'm not ignorant as to why someone would move from CA to TX.
The perks don’t look like tech but they are really really good
Also good health insurance, paid parental leave (in the US!), job security, a known and transparent progression path...honesty I’ll take lower uncertainty for slightly lower pay because it saves me money over time.
If we really cared about minorities and believed they were equal (which we should) we wouldn't write articles about career success as though it was completely unexpected. If I were her I'd be insulted.
Human brains are Bayesian filters. Affirmative action policies will understandably influence the prior even among individuals who believe in diversity and inclusion.
When she "starts talking," a fair-minded individual will develop a posterior that appropriately updates any suspicions that were previously held.
And while there are some who are fair-minded, many are not. So such a person is in a lose-lose situation. Those with bias will discriminate against them -- and "fair minded individuals" will use take their poor relative performance to inform their prior. Try to compensate for that, and those fair minded individuals use that, too, against them.
So "fair-mindedness" leads us to perpetuate discrimination. Which doesn't seem very fair.
Reading about how foreign workers get imported who have no money then somehow end up in high value position now makes me deeply curious about why those roles at United States government agencies can’t be filled by local workforce?
I am actually completely skeptical that there is an engineering shortage in America and stories like this make me wonder why this back door pipeline is needed? And why am I supposed to celebrate this?