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"Uses iCloud Keychain to communicate across devices. Your data are never transferred or stored in any external server."

That cannot be true.

Hi cassianleal, I'm the founder of Obsidian. The meaning of the statement is that users' data are not stored on some external database nor are transferred (even if temporarly) to any server.

Communication happens only between Obsidian (app) and the iCloud keychain.

I think it might clear things up if you said that the data is not stored on any Obsidian servers, because the data is stored on iCloud servers.

That's true, I'll update the copy to be more clear!

You are right.

I'd love an explanation of that statement: if it uses iCloud, your data are stored on Apple's servers. Your data may be encrypted, but they are definitely being transferred from/to your devices and iCloud, and being stored there.

I don't have a problem with this, I use iCloud for this purpose myself, but I do believe you are correct to call out this statement.

Hi Peter, I see your point. Yeah it's actually true what you say, I didn't consider it as a "server".

But you are right!

In the statement I was meaning any "Obsidian" or third-party server!

Sorry for the misunderstanding!

Hi r4id4,

Sorry I wrote in a bit of a rush and could have been more verbose. :)

Thanks for acknowledging the mistake, it's a much better response than denying or dismissing.

Just another small nitpick - iCloud's / Apple's servers are still a third-party servers since they are neither mine nor yours.

Your app looks pretty nice though, I wish you success with it!

You were right, there was nothing to deny ahah :) I've updated the copy and specified "apart from iCloud"

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