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> sounds like a pc which will last for many years

I really want this as well, but I'm a bit sceptical: would any company release a product soooo good so that their users don't need to buy new models of such product for many years?

I still have a 2015 MBP that works like the first day although I would like to increase the disk and ram. 5 years with the same model; that's a lot. I know many people who replaces their laptops every 2 or 3 years. Now, I have the impression that a model like the one you just described, is a model that could easily "last" for more than 5 years without trouble. Wouldn't that hurt Apple's sales long-term?

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>would any company release a product soooo good so that their users don't need to buy new models of such product for many years?

Every person that I know with a Mac or an iPhone still has it and it's usable for years after they're done with it. I know some people that are still using their iPhone 6S because it has a headphone jack and that phone is almost 7 years old at this point.

I personally think that the 2015 MBP was the last best value MacBook that would of been the one to last you plenty of years and looks like it has for you. The MacBooks since then have not had much of an noticeable improvement (other than new M1's) and even regressions with the keyboard issues, heat issues etc.

I'm hoping this years gen will be like that 2015 model. But I share your concerns, knowing Apple they will gimp it somewhere like not allowing 2 monitors or limiting to 16GB then have next years model have it which will prob increase sales by a ton long term.

Yeah I got the 2014 MBP and was thinking of getting a new battery for it rather than replacing the whole laptop. Very nice machine.

I literally just switched from a 2012 Mac Mini to a stop-gap 2018 model (waiting for Docker on the M1 before I move to that).

That’s almost 9 years on one machine and I didn’t have to switch; I just wanted to dabble in the latest iOS dev on Big Sur (which is unsupported on the 2012 model)

That they last so long (and, consequently, have high resale value even when they're several years old) is part of why Apple can charge so much in the first place. The resale-value thing also helps people justify those 2-3 year replacement cycles.

Keeps you in the ecosystem, on Apple's services. And a top-end MBP will cost >$3k, which I don't think people buying laptops every 2-3 years spend.

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