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CDC lets child migrant shelters fill to 100% despite Covid concern

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I guess we're calling them shelters again.

That’s entertaining but I just went a year back into that author’s posts and she never called them anything differently. Writing a lot about border immigration, ICE, and their facilities.

The implication never was that this particular journalist called them anything else. Just the current administration and the broader political culture. I don't think the "kids in cages" framing is as common ever since the election, but there are still some consistent voices calling it what it is.

Different people that are not actually invested in this cause are not putting energy into the migrant children internment and won't. They move on to the controversy du jour.

It is unproductive to shoehorn that observation into this article as if this article, or author or poster or community as a representation of the "Broader political culture" contribute to that observation. If it did, I would agree with you, and I felt the need to check.

OP's comment isn't about the author of this article but instead about the cultural narratives which resulted in this particular article to be brought to the front page of HN as opposed to another.

The CDC and WHO have both repeatedly said children have relatively low transmission rates. And yet this FUD article about COVID risk to these kids is what gets pushed to the top. It feels like only yesterday these facilities were literally being referred to as Nazi camps.

So low COVID risk front page. Nazi camps... basically vanished from our attention. This is not a commentary on the author of this article but the social consciousness that selected to promote this article.

This is a trailer camp, not a chain link processing center.

Still not good, but not really the same thing.

The CDC has proven itself in the last year to be an organization making decisions based on politics not science so no surprise at all.

Children, for the most part, do not transmit to one another. So this is aligned with the science.

What's not aligned with morality is we stopped calling these things cages for kids, which they still are even though we changed Presidents.

Not sure why you got downvoted for simply stating facts.

I just went a year back into that author’s posts and she never called them anything differently. Writing a lot about border immigration, ICE, and their facilities.

If you want to be vigilant about it, do that. This author and the people upvoting it weren’t part of that, and this post is still intended to be vigilant about the problem.

If you are expecting the same media and representatives to continue making this the controversy du jour, thats obviously not going to happen. They will omit discussion about it and there is nothing surprising about that.

You will need to be more discerning about who is contributing to what. This article isn’t one of those partisan hack jobs and is still about a real ongoing and increasing issue.

> Children, for the most part, do not transmit to one another. So this is aligned with the science.

Sorry, that's wrong. Dangerously wrong, as the countries that reopen schools are realizing at the moment. https://www.dw.com/en/coronavirus-children-can-be-spreaders-...

Low risk is not the same as zero risk. I have not and would not claim zero risk. Here's what the WHO says on the issue.

https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-detail/coronavirus-disease...

>To date, few outbreaks involving children or schools have been reported. However, the small number of outbreaks reported among teaching or associated staff to date suggests that spread of COVID-19 within educational settings may be limited.

>...Some modelling studies suggest that school re-opening might have a small effect on wider transmission in the community

It's not an independent agency, not sure what you expected there.

I would also agree with this. When it comes to masks.. they're still stuck on the idea that people should be wearing cloth based masks. Other nations have moved on from that weak idea.

Germany requires the FFP2, and Korea has recommended the KF94.

CDC.. why not two? (It's as good as 2 condoms.. yes you have more protection from the medium.. but ends up creating more failure)

You're not joking I was part of the search for wmds in the desert for George w bush. I lived Mission oriented personal protection for 3 years every day huge positive ventilation suits. A protocol written by CDC. Part of our war training taught us to never hand out disposable masks to civilians they don't have the muscle memory or the knowledge to properly use them, proper use is to never touch disposable mask and once you do destroy it immediately. Improper use of disposal mask will speed up the spread by several fold. All in my hand gide I still have. it has nothing to do with the construction of the mask and everything to do with how you use it.

I call upon All American entrepreneurs to make Mexico great again after this huge influx illegal immigrants we start buying up everything on the border grocery stores water holes anything American should own it if they're going to get a free ride. My grandma immigrated to this country through hard work this pissing her off.

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