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What you say is entirely true. But in practice, this is for fun, no one gonna use their emoji email for anything important. But it's great to have an emoji email to give to medium when they ask for it? Isn't that great.

> no one gonna use their emoji email for anything important

I disagree.

We, as technical HN crowd, know not to do this this. But any non-technical person who sees 'get a next-gen email addresses' being advertised for 9,99/year will expect more. A lot more.

Do not underestimate how naive and demanding consumers can be.

Thank you for open my mind. I see your point now.

Caveat emptor

And for a long time, no one used email for anything important.

Very few new things emerge feature-complete.

It amazes me how people on HN can handwave away these huge concerns. Have you met human beings? The users just sees "email" and thinks it's exactly like gmail except with a funky emoji in it. It's only a matter of time before someone tries to pay their taxes with this.

How do you pay your taxes with email?

They probaly means we use that email address when paying taxes so notification/receipt etc will be send to that email address.

You know what breaks, in human beings' experiences?

Everything. All the time.

So the holier-than-thou, thou-shall-not-deploy-less-than-perfect perspective is pretty irrelevant.

This is a side project. That did something neat. The author should be commended, not lambasted for not rebuilding Gmail on their own.

And God knows the Internet would be a better place with a little more weirdness again.

I dont think they are being lambasted, they should just put a warning on their site. Email is a very messed up ecosystem, and people who use email don't understand that. This is very cool, there should just be a disclaimer that this is a side project and will break often. Email is notoriously a pain in the ass if it's a full time job, much less a side project that's losing money. He's not selling this to quirky techies, his primary advertisement was tic tok. That's kind of irresponsible to not warn people this should just be for fun.

You're not wrong per se, but rather: there should just be a disclaimer on Email that this is a very messed up ecosystem and will break often. It's not specific to xn--ds8h.kz et al.

Yep, this is going to bomb big time in the next year or even less. No doubt there will be fodder for another HN post..

I've become a big fan of structuring onboarding in a way that makes problem customers never complete. Maybe the OP should think about how to do that here

That's what Dogecoin's creator said. 7 years later it sits at 7 Billion $ market cap and it is a big deal.

After all, people pay money to obtain these. Why anybody paying a subscription fee would expect that the product is useless?

And soon to be the official currency of Starbase, Texas. Apparently. Although I might be misinterpreting Musk's tweet. He definitely said Dodge though.

That is all until The Queen snatches up that reserved Liz@[crown].kz, after that the MI5 will buy and run the [union-jack].uk for all governmental parties and typing in very.important.person@parliament.uk istead of [serious-face-with-a-tie]@[big-ben] will be considered rude in high circles, believe me that!

;)

> This service should come with a big fat warning that the emoji email addresses should never be used for anything remotely serious.

I don't know, we said the same thing about jeans.

This service doesn’t support even sending, just receiving. So I don’t think there is DKIM even considered.

Or SPF for that matter.

It should have an SPF record saying nobody can send as that domain.

It says send support is 'coming soon' on the website, so expectations are already set for those paying for this service.

It needs DKIM so other people cannot send e-mail pretending to be you.

If enough people start using it, the big email providers will follow, or the new service will get around to fixing it.

It’ll work out either way.

I’m not going to shed a tear for gmail if they have to start putting up with someone else’s busted non-standard email infrastructure. They should be able to get what they give.

>They should be able to get what they give.

Except, that will never happen. What's more likely, Gmail changes what they do to accomodate some goofy emoji system, or users of some goofy emoji system get frustrated about it's incompatibility and stop using it because it is so frustrating? I'm not talking about tech nerds on HN or the likes. I'm talking about FOMO/YOLO types that think it's "cool", but then new shiny happens, and they just forget about. One group significantly outnumbers the other.

'Serious', 'enterprise'.. and email addresses ending in star emoji, eggplant emoji.. wonder how that venn diagram would look like..

Yes but yourname@[computer] is quite appealing for a dev. I already bought it from OP

I'm pretty sure most people wouldn't expect something like this to work reliably.

He advertised it to a general audience on tic tok,and it is a service people pay for. Why would they not expect it to work? That makes no sense to me. It seems that way because you understand how dysfunctional email is. I would be upset if I bought a service for something I don't understand that is normally completely functional and free and when I relied on it it broke only for people who understand it to laugh at me because I should have just known that vendor was unreliable.

emojis break lots of things. Most people probably aren't surprised when using emojis in passwords doesn't work well either.

If you know so much about this stuff instead of criticizing, offer to help for a consulting fee and get your own paragraph in the next update to this story

I love the idea of a positive (yet critical) feedback loop instead of the tone on display here.

DMARK, DKIM, and SPF are only for sending. Mailoji doesn't support sending yet.

TLS and MTA-STS are for receiving and would be good to set up, eventually.

You sound fun