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Comment by billziss | Hacker News Reader

Heroic Labs service looks interesting. So I decided to look at their Terms of Service:

> "You represent, warrant, and agree that You will not use the Services in a manner that is illegal..."

Fair enough.

> "... or otherwise inconsistent with these Terms. In addition, you will not use the Services in a manner that Heroic deems, in its sole discretion, objectionable."

So they can decide that I violated their TOS for any reason they see fit.

This is not the way to build a business relationship. Based on this I would never consider becoming their customer.

EDIT: Links to the TOS:

https://heroiclabs.com/tos.txt https://archive.is/aUd50

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idk, seems like a pretty standard condition. Other platforms have something similar, allowing e.g. Amazon to cancel Parler's account on their services. Nobody is required to give you a platform, and if you already think that you intend to use their platform for something they will find objectionable, you should reconsider your moral compass.

What an individual may find objectional and what an organization with a founded interest in maintaining a positive public image in the todays political turbulence may find objectional are very different things. It's far too easy to stray on the wrong side of the masses for even the slightest perceived misstep.

Yep, very standard. Here’s the WordPress TOS as another example, under their e-commerce section:

> We may terminate your access to our Services or force refunds (where possible) to your subscribers and customers without notice to you if we determine (in our sole discretion) that your use violates the Agreement, or if a payment processor or regulatory authority requires it.

And, like with WordPress, users of Nakama can still use the open source version without having to ask for any sort of permission. This is much greater user freedom than the average closed-source SaaS.

WP's TOS doesn't say anything about if they find your content "objectionable".

> you should reconsider your moral compass

My moral compass is very well calibrated. I do not go around making character attacks, nor do I interject my politics in unrelated discussion.

The fact that its common doesn't change the fact that it's an awful deal to enter into.

>Nobody is required to give you a platform

Conversely, I am not required to give them my money.

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