I agree with all your points and would like to hire you to code up my idea for mashing up internet memes and home improvement supplies. I have already purchased the domain name: lolcatphotosharinghomedepot.com. Although I have made this much progress already, I am prepared to offer you 5% equity in this endeavour. The combination of my prestigious Harvard MBA and my 1 year of consulting experience at prestigious Bain, Co. will assure our success. Please let me know when we can begin. Your first step will be to deploy an Oracle/Microsoft cloud server in the cumulonimbus formation off the coast of East Africa to handle the user traffic that I am sure will arrive shortly.
lol, you forgot the NDA signing part
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I understand where you're coming from. As other people have said (including yourself), this post is directed at a certain subset of business guys who don't bring anything to the table and demand too much. I certainly agree with you (I'm a current finance major who is learning to code so I can put out my own MVP and not be the person you describe), and I see these types all the time.
"And no, outsourcing an MVP and paying for that, and coming up with the idea is not a huge value prop."
I actually read through the cursing.
LOL sorry about the swearing. Was just frustrated when I was writing that.
I don't think you're really describing business co-founders but instead just the want to be entrepreneurs who are out of work. People who are all talk are everywhere in the workplace and society and of course you will find them in the startup world. No way to get rid of them, so just ignore.
Telling all business co-founders to go f--- themselves because a few are jackasses is like telling all the women of the world to go f--- themselves because a few broke your heart. I know you put a disclaimer at the top of your post to soften the blow, but still... Odd.
It was really targeted towards the business cofounders who exhibit the things I listed, not everyone as a whole. I made an edit to the post earlier to reflect that I think there is a strong value proposition of a good business cofounder. Unfortunately, majority if not all of the ones I've encountered are all like the people I've described. Each having faults in their own way that reflects the type of things I wrote about. No one is perfect and I believe we're all here to learn and by doing. I just wish these particular business guys (for lack of a better term) would realize there is more they can do.
Wow a real flame bait.
i suggest another topic to discus here on HN:any monkey can learn to code, and read manuals all day lon. some monkeys get an ego and start thinking that. they are somehow more hardworking or smarter. not true. you just a monkey that can read and obbey instructions in the book.
It's not a flame bait. I'll gladly do one on the flipside later. Technical guys looking for a cofounder aren't all perfect either. Far from it. It's just between the two sides, I run into more problems with the business cofounders.
Excellent response, to my flame-bait about monkeys in the first comment :) I personally respect technical guys more than the said business co-founders...