Just a hypothesis. But the number of viruses in the gut, the vast majority of which we know nothing about, does reveal an awful lot of room for unintended consequences.
Just a hypothesis. But the number of viruses in the gut, the vast majority of which we know nothing about, does reveal an awful lot of room for unintended consequences.
But certainly as a treatment - it has merit and wished was explored more. Just wished known about it at the time.
Can you elaborate on this? I'm curious as to the general details.
“ Fluoroquinolones, including CIPRO®, are associated with an increased risk of tendinitis and tendon rupture in all ages. This risk is further increased in older patients usually over 60 years of age, in patients taking corticosteroid drugs, and in patients with kidney, heart or lung transplants (see WARNINGS). Fluoroquinolones, including CIPRO, may exacerbate muscle weakness in persons with myasthenia gravis. Avoid CIPRO in patients with known history of myasthenia gravis (see WARNINGS).”
https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/label/2013/01...
All the quinolones also associated with lots of internet reports of ill health in a variety of respects, but tendinitis is the official warning.
Actually I see there is an updated warning about central nervous system damage now too. FDA recommends they only be used as a last resort.
Sorry you had that experience. I had Cipro about ten years ago, wasn’t really necessary. Can’t say for sure it did anything but my reaction was intense while on it, and I had much worsened general digestion and overall health after that point.
https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-upda...
I have seen 40+ physicians at Mayo, Rush and other popular hospital networks, only one doctor said it's a possibility. Others outright dismiss it and look for alternative diagnosis.
However, there are some recent discoveries and theories. There was a study which found DNA adducts from cipro, others are looking at mtDNA and collagen issues.
For anyone reading please research any flouroquinolone antibiotic before taking them. It is A SERIOUS medication and not like other antibiotics.
The worst part of FQAD (Flouroquinolone Associated Disability) as it is a thing now, there is ZERO tests to confirm it. If it happens to you, you will be dismissed and ignored by the medical community. I know doctors, pharmacists who had a negative reaction and were outright called crazy by their colleagues. An optometrist who was quite outspoken was dropped by some insurance companies as this view is "controversial". Many older flouroquinolone antibiotics have been taken off the market completely due to severe adverse reactions.
Have any links? And find anything that helped?
I’m doing much better than I was before. But not knowing whether the issues are due to Cipro I also can’t be sure that anything I tried addressed it.
His issues were different than yours, but I think it was the same antibiotic. In any case, worth considering a dietary change.
IMO it's a workaround and doesn't address whatever core issue someone might have, but often with GI stuff we don't have a "cure" so workarounds are all people have.
That seems like a dubious assertion in a thread about peoples intestinal flora being destroyed by recommendations from their "health provider"s.
If you’re zero fodmap for years you lose all the bacteria that digest them and are left even more susceptible.
You could probably sue him. Antibiotics should only be prescribed for salmonella food poisoning (and almost all similar gut problems) in severe cases - normally all you have to do is keep hydrated and you will get over it. Otherwise you run the risk of introducing antibiotic resistance, so such treatments may become ineffective in severe cases.
Not a medic. Used to be a microbiologist.
And I should have said, keep your electrolytes up.
Mostly for boils and related skin infections when I was a child growing up on a farm.
That was seven years ago. I was forced to quit my job. I couldn't travel at all, even across town. I became dreadfully sick with even light physical exertion. After five years of every test, diet, medication, and therapy available to me I was prescribed medication (eluxadoline) which is effective, but costs me $24,000/year and is not covered by insurance. I still have flare-ups once a month but at least I can ride my bicycle again.
I wish I could sue the doctor who stole my twenties from me. But I stand no chance in court.
If your own nearest option is still slow or requires a personally-nominated donor, other providers offering the freeze-dried pills, perhaps even via telemedicine, might be an option. Good luck!
In theory yes, but there is the challenge of avoiding re-infection with the one species you're being treated to eliminate.
In my experience antibiotics were prescribed for acute symptoms that quickly worsened. I don't think they would have delayed my treatment for the hours or days needed to collect a pre-treatment sample.
Kevin rose did a podcast with https://pendulumlife.com/ that made that seem like a great path
I took a lot of anti biotics as a kid. I'm pretty sure it killed off whatever gut microbiome I had multiple times over.
Never really had an issue except for becoming fat. Except for headaches. Which I never really thought about for many many years. You know, just take a pill. Probably took 20 years for me to figure it out somewhat.
This may or may not work at all for you and even for myself I can't really scientifically say anything about it. But what helped me was probiotics. I had to try a lot of them. And it got worse first before it got better while the bacteria were fighting with each other and I'm not sure what would happen if I stopped them.
However the best explanation I have found so far is that these probiotics that have Bacillus Subtilis in them made the difference. I don't want to advertise a specific product but since I've been asked before, what I take is Garden of Life Primal Defense Ultra. I tried others before and the one difference is Bacillus Subtilis. YMMV but worth a try if you ask me. I did combine it with a Keto diet too but I'm no longer on it and still fine.
Also in case you drink beer for example, I get worse when I have beer. Hard liquor? Absolutely fine now with the probiotics but beer still screws me up if I have it for a longer period of time.
That's why hepatitis C was so difficult to treat. It required a very specific molecule to inhibit an enzyme specific to hepatitis C.
My gut has seen a lot from various parts of the world. It's like starting over.
The more places I revisit, the better things have become.
But yeah, significant changes. Ahem... lots of irregularity, as if many foods were new. (and in a sense they were)
The reintroduction idea is valid IMHO, based on some of my own experiences.
I tend to put more of the carrots, onions, and daikon in though as I like that crunch. I don't put in the harder to find ingredients and tend to ferment it a little over a week in a big vessel and then store it in smaller mason jars in the fridge. making carbon dioxide with vinegar and baking soda and then pouring it(just the invisible co2 though!!) over the ferment vessel has been flawless for my ferments. in any event controlled rot is fun... brewing your own kombucha is even easier too... basically making a sweet tea and pouring in a bottle of unflavored and still alive kombucha and it will make it on its own.
In any case "general antiviral" seems to be even worst thing then general antibiotic. Most of bacteria / viruses are commensal, you don't really want to disturb that. For example, bacteriophage viruses are now known to handle some of the 100% resistant bacteria in a matter of days.
IMO, the system is so complex that you should only support the crew that know how to handle that - i.e. your immune system - by providing resources they need (vitamins etc.) and avoid things detrimental for them (sugar, tonsillectomy etc.).
Is this hypothesis too or a fact?