> your point about Netflix is irrelevant because not every use case can be buffered

nothing special about netflix, just a service that most people use. even their highest quality offering is streamable if we actually got advertised speeds. just trying to say that 25 isnt a meaningful cap for most people.

> require better up speed than 3Mbps with bad ping and high jitter

rejectfinite makes this point downthread and i agree with both of you. i think theres a lot more bang for your buck to be had by reducing quality problems and widening the upload pipe.

100Mbps download so that multiple people can simultaneously stream 4k video is not a sane default.