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does anyone know if any american carrier is doing similarly? I am quitting Alaska Air because they leaned in to the 737 Max, I feel like I'll take any other carrier that at least gives me a fighting chance of not flying a MAX on a route that I care about?

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Norwegian is doing this for purely economic reasons; are there any American carriers in similarly deep financial strife to Norwegian?

Are there any american carriers, who have not gone through bankruptcy restructuring in the last 10 years? I thought some of them basically traded in the state semi-permanently.

Southwest, Spirit, Alaska, and JetBlue (and probably others, but I got tired of looking) all have _never_ gone through bankruptcy-- Southwest had even managed to turn a profit for 47 consecutive years before COVID came along last year and screwed that streak up.

Many of the other big, "traditional" national carriers (including American, Delta, and United) have been through Chapter 11 once. That's not really "trading in the state semi-permanently", though; none of the surviving big-name carriers have been through Chapter 11 more than once, and all are currently out of it.

Interesting. Thank you. in Asia, LCC are a mixed bag and many tank. I had assumed (wrongly) this was also true in the US, and beleived the C11 story. I was wrong: there are profitable LCC in the US and not all of the 2nd tiers are LCC in any case.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_airline_bankruptcies_i...

Delta has no max and no plans to acquire any that I’m aware of.

Thanks for the info!

JetBlue, Frontier and Spirit are all non-boeing.

I've not looked into this, but when you're buying the tickets won't it show you the plane you'd be flying?

E: Just checked on Google flights and it does say the airplane you'll be flying.

I believe you can, but I have read online in comments people saying that the plane can still change before the flight.

It shows you the plane that's scheduled (as of whenever you're looking).

Airlines can change their schedules without a lot of notice, and if you're flying an airline that has a lot of similar capacity planes, there's lots of ways you end up flying on something else.

If it's a big enough deal tobyou that you're willing to refuse to board when you see the plane's nameplate, you're probably not going to have a great travel day. It would be better to book a different airline than deal with the chances.

That's too bad. I really like Alaska Air, although they don't have a lot of available flights. They configure their planes with a good amount of leg room.

Most 737s will be a Max varient within ten years.

American carriers tend to buy American aeroplanes, understandably but frustratingly.

Not at all true these days.

American Airlines has one of the largest Airbus fleets in the world. (A320 family and A330.)

United also has a fleet of A320s.

Spirit and Frontier are 100% Airbus, and JetBlue is all Airbus (Europe) and Embraer (Brazil.) Allegient is also 100% Airbus now.

Delta also has a huge Airbus fleet, and all of their recent fleet additions have been Airbus: the A321 and A321NEO, the A220, A330 and 330NEO, and the A350.

Even "Proudly all Boeing" Alaska Airlines is keeping a few A321s around for the long term after their merger with Virgin America (which ran a 100% Airbus fleet.)

I don't really think there's any correlation. For instance, Ryanair which is a solely European airline exclusively flies Boeings while Spirit and Jetblue, solely American airlines exclusively fly Airbuses.

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