YouTube Shadow Banned Us WTF Happened?
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FloatPlane is too expensive (I don’t want to pay per channel). Vessel was great but it’s gone.
I’m fine with paying for videos, but there’s just no platform like Netflix for random creators
If you have two choices, namely no money and some money and you must have money to eat then you don't have two choices. There is no choice, because the other platforms are far too small to compete. What should arguably happen more is uploading to more than one location, but searching for youtube alternatives is almost impossible (at least if you want one that actually has some potential. There is a ton of trash).
People can complain as much as they want (and sometimes rightly so) but it's a simple technical truth that nobody else can provide a Youtube-quality service for free. The operating costs are just insane.
Most people posting on YouTube have day jobs or other means of support. I'm actually tempted to think that patronage and ad supported models lure a lot of people into thinking they can monetize their hobby in a significant way that they would never think they could if they were playing a musical instrument for tips.
Essentially, if you don't like your job, stop complaining and quit!
People invested significantly in YouTube because they were promised that it was a platform for everyone.
Now they are gentrifying the platform and driving everyone off who isn't a major celebrity, via gaslighting.
If you are a celebrity like Logan Paul, the rules simply do not apply to you. YouTube will fully monetize anything you put up, up to and including violating the terms of service or even committing actual crimes in real life.
YouTube is perfectly capable of treating people better, they just choose not to.
People can see it is wrong when Uber does stuff like this to contractors who are far less invested in the platform, but YouTube gets a free pass to abuse its contributors.
It just needs a start
TLDR: A few people may do it, but it won't scale.
Do they have apps for all smartphones and TV's?
I just search the iOS App Store, and the 2 Vimeo apps that are at the top seem to be for creators, not consumers.
I watch most Youtube on the TV, if there's no Vimeo app, I wouldn't be able to consume the content.
(If someone from Nebula reads this: My only complaint is a lack of a Roku app, which is where I consume most of my content in the living room any more. Please make this happen!)
Sure, I'm not happy about authors optimizing for some alforithms, like increasing playtime, allowing thumbnails that have nothing to do with content, and heavy moderation of important words (like COVID), but I live with it.
Of course it really is the content that is making it worth my money here. There is no platform loyalty. If another platform amassed a significant number of quality creators, I would certainly switch over.
Those are the times when I switch to YouTube app, which always works for me, and downloads are working as well. The only thing that I'm missing from it is support for downloading in background, when I'm not running the YouTube app.
Not really. Network effects keep them all there whether they like it or not. The creators need their work viewed, and that happens where there are both creators and viewers, which is Youtube.
But vetting creators doesn't address the fundamental issue causing the creator's temporary shutdown: security heuristics used to flag unauthorized/compromised access is very hard
Similar examples I've personally experienced across other domains:
- Citi credit-card blocks my card when I was on vacation in Canada and tried to buy shoes from the store.
- Chase Bank locks all my online accounts from any logins when I try to transfer $20 to a friend's bank account. The only way to unlock it was to drive to a physical branch and present 2 forms of ID. Even after the bank employee unlocked the account, the effect wasn't immediate and was still locked for several hours. I then retried the exact same $20 bank transfer and it worked.
- Rackspace hosted email service locks out my coworker's email account (that's on my paid plan) because of suspicious activity. It turns out her laptop had a hidden virus that compromised her email account and was sending out spam.
Other than the Rackspace example, the false-positives are inevitable because no heuristic to detect unusual behavior is perfect. Netflix would also have the same false-positives and lock/shutdown creators channels which triggers similar headlines: "Netflix shutdown my channel..."
To point back to your idea, I was already vetted by my bank with physical forms of ID when I there to sign papers and open the account -- and yet they still locked me out years later for suspicious activity. You see how vetting doesn't really solve this Youtuber's problem?
I also stopped commenting on Youtube altogether because their algorithms tend to block so many comments.
I have gone through a couple of identity verification gymnastics over the past year for various things. While not absolutely necessary, gaining a degree of confidence that someone is who they say they are is certainly more difficult over the phone than in person.
With my Irish bank, I have to tell them when I plan to use the card abroad otherwise they'll block it. It takes about 30 second through an online form. Since I've had cards skimmed multiple times while traveling I think this is a reasonable precaution, however, they didn't make it very obvious and the first time I found out about it was in Bali airport trying to withdraw money to pay for my visa.
I've come to the conclusion that, when traveling especially internationally, you have to plan for one or more of your money sources not working and having backups. In some respects it's actually easier than it used to be but the failure modes are different.
If I were them, I,d be investing in the latter.
Hint: It’s not high quality.
YouTube couldn't care less about random creators like this one that don’t optimize for eyeballs.
Although they say there is no alternative to YouTube for them today, it makes it obvious that there is an opportunity.
Seems like a pretty large incentive for anyone forward-thinking and not over-confident.
Have fun competing against that.