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Yes! I updated my post when I saw this.

I can't imagine it will be so simple for Frogwares to rip up their contract and walk away with the money they were paid already. But I imagine their publisher openly ripping off their game will make upcoming settlements really easy for them.

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The court ordered Frogwares to deliver the sources in October with 50k euros of penalty per day not shipping them. Frogwares did not deliver anything. As an Irish company with offices in Ukraine having to settle against a french publisher paying taxes in France, low standing in court (several lawsuits) and not having executed previous court orders, it sounds harder from my point of view. I can imagine a world where they even end up having to pay for the hacking cost as well.

was the original contract ever produced or available?

> to deliver the sources

this seems weird, since one party is telling the world from their blog the source transfer was never part of the agreement

Seems kinda weird. I wonder if Frogwares could sue in a US court? Both companies probably do the bulk of their business in the US and are selling through US-based stores.

Why? It's not any better than where they are now. If anything US court will drag it our even longer. Also Frogware already lost.

I don't think the court ordered them to deliver the source code.

I didn't read the full decision linked by @ernesth, but this part says that they have to deliver two "masters", one drm free and one for Steam.

Sur la livraison des formats manquants :

— ordonner à Frogwares Ireland de lui livrer les deux masters du jeu 'The Sinking city’ sur format PC DRM Free et Steam sous astreinte de 50.000 euros par jour de retard à compter du 5 ème jour suivant la notification par e-mail de la décision à intervenir

I think the meaning of master in this case is Gold Master : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_release_life_cycle#RT...

You are right, it's the gold DRM free master, not the sources. But Frogwares still didn't deliver those two builds.

Then you take the money and don't hack your way to what you're owed.

In my opinion (IANAL), making claims in their IPO that aren’t true might end up being the most damaging for them, if found to be true, and if someone cares to work that angle.

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