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I’m still pissed that MSN Messenger died but the hot garbage of Skype continued. I wish the pick for in org chat was MSN and not Skype. Back in 2004 we had chat history, now MS had to come up with the behemoth of Teams to provide that feature.

All we needed was msn on Android and iPhone with cloud backup of chats, that’s if.

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Don't worry, they ruined Skype too.

It used to be great and the P2P nature of it meant that file transfer speed, call quality & reliability was down to your network connection, something that you can control and fix should it be bad.

The clients also used to be beautiful, both on Windows and Mac. They replaced both with an Electron abomination.

Don't forget that if you accidentally merged your Microsoft account with your old Skype account you could lose all the contacts. I lost several gaming buddies that way when I didn't have alternate contact info.

Lync was MSN and was fairly popular and Skype for business was an evolution of the Lync client not the Skype client. So Microsoft did actually pick MSN. They just kept the stronger brand. Also it always had chat history.

Teams is a different beast and a natural evolution. It's mostly centered around meetings and group chat which makes sense because that's what pro users actually want.

Skype for Business / Lync was originally called Office Communicator and has always used SIP for client/server communications.

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