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In my country, the UK, you can be fined for going a walk to a park if it isn't the closest park to your home. Basically if the police want to be arses to you they can ask you where you are going and why you are where you are, if they dont like your answer you can be fined.

There was an article in the BBC a while back about two friends that met up for a walk in the country side, they drove to the meetup point. It wasn't the closest place they could have walked so they got fined.

Also IIRC, they were carrying a cup of coffee each so the police said technically they met for a picnic.

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After the furore surrounding that everything was overturned and they apologised [1].

> if the police want to be arses

This is what's completely wrong about the situation.

Police officer had an argument with their spouse that morning and is in a shitty mood? Police officer was bullied at school and is using their power to punish the kind of person that looks like their bullies? Any number of entirely random things can change the "rules". Not good.

[1] https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-derbyshire-55625062

> Also IIRC, they were carrying a cup of coffee each so the police said technically they met for a picnic.

It's both sad and hilarious that going for a picnic is currently a criminal act.

What I think is under discussed is the fact that we allow for all of these social restrictions measurements but yet air travel across all the EU countries is still allowed.

Air travel worldwide is just fine. In airport transit zones all you need is a mask.

We flew from Northern Europe to South Asia a week ago and the flights were filled 60-70%.

Absolutely false. I am not saying airports are a source of infection. What I am pointing out is that air travel is allowing for all these variants to propagate to new populations.

The pervasiveness of the UK variant in Europe would have been contained or at least decelerated with travel restrictions.

A living proof of this is both New Zealand and Australia. These countries still allowed for sea and air freight but banned travel. Both countries are roughly back to normal life, while we in Europe are still trying to blame pharmaceutical manufacturing vaccine output, as if that is the sole cause of our problems.

Air travel might be allowed in that flights happen, but the second travelers land they are immediately sent into quarantine in some countries. Poland, for instance, requires 10-day quarantine for anyone flying into the country, even from other EU states. That quarantine is checked by requiring you to install a mandatory phone app and also by sending the police around to your address.

Also, because some EU countries are claiming that crossing their borders is only allowed for essential reasons proven by documentation, the airport in the country of origin will prevent many people from even being able to board the plane in the first place.

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