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Meta comment: one thing I find particularly interesting here is the 4th point on their infographic - 23% of people don't feel safe getting around SF.

What amazes me is how SF responds to the endemic issues that are slowly destroying the city. Not be fixing the core issue, but by making it a startup opportunity. Cars getting broken into and muggings happening when you're on foot? Lower the barrier of entry to car transport without ownership, advertise the safety aspect of it. It's mildly surreal.

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Tragically, people are injured and killed in muggings, but this is actually fairly rare, although it's a terrible experience to get mugged even if there's no injury. Hopefully we can work on building a world where no one is that desperate.

Even more tragic - because it isn't rare - is getting mowed down by cars. People get killed or injured by the dozen in car crashes in SF. It's insane that anyone with a license can just show up and drive in the Mission/Tenderloin/Downtown.

Not good enough for San Francisco, car property theft even happens now while the cars are being driven by people:

https://abc7.com/car-robbery-traffic-thief-jumps-out-of-robs...

I don't think they mean people worrying about muggings or breaking into the cars. Quote from the article "Worryingly, nearly a quarter didn't feel safe on San Francisco’s roads at all".

That for me heavily suggests that people don't feel safe while driving, due to most likely general chaotic environment of roads there.

It says in the article that these questions were specifically in reference to driving around San Francisco in a car, not general safety.

"SF" isn't the one responding to bad transportation with self-driving car efforts.

And SF is making progress with bus lanes and bike lanes and a new subway. Just...very, very slowly.

People need to stop believing in Hanlon's Razor.

When you have a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

> Meta comment: one thing I find particularly interesting here is the 4th point on their infographic - 23% of people don't feel safe getting around SF.

Be very careful when considering 'facts' like these. It's very easy to shape the response of a survey by asking particular questions in a certain order. Don't assume anything like this is actually true.

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